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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 12 May 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 12 May 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 05/12/2013 3:43:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Alas Babylon!

Larri!

Ding ding ding


101 posted on 05/12/2013 6:51:51 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teheXia46lw

At 5:20 in this Fox News video, it says: “October 16, 2012 [Susan Rice] Blames intelligence community talking points for the faulty narrative on Sunday news shows days after attack.”

Apparently Rice wants people to think that the CIA imagined the protest and video, and wrote her lines.


102 posted on 05/12/2013 6:52:33 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Admiral Mullen...he quotes that the Joint Chief of Staff said “There was no way we could have gotten there.

Missing the POINT by a million light years. A lame CYA.

103 posted on 05/12/2013 6:52:42 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: animal172

I heard that Cheryl Lamb got a promotion. Anyone know if that’s true?


104 posted on 05/12/2013 6:52:51 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: Alas Babylon!

105 posted on 05/12/2013 6:54:42 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: csmusaret

Anybody remember how 9/11 was Bush’ fault and Benghazi is nobody’s fault? Also, the leaking of the file clerk at the CIA went all the way to the top, yet nobody knows who gave the Stand Down order even though there is only one person who can give that order.

Only Obama could give that order and he was not sleeping, he was watching the Ambassador get murdered. He is the biggest coward to have ever occupied that desk.

Pray for America to Wake Up


106 posted on 05/12/2013 6:57:28 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: csmusaret

The video CYA stuff all came from the beltway. Either Foggy Bottom or the NSC in the White House. The CIA and State people on the ground in Libya reported an attack.


107 posted on 05/12/2013 6:59:10 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: popdonnelly
The Administration is sending Pickering out to talk about Benghazi? What credibility does he have?

For those like me who didn't recall who this Pickering guy is, this from the ARB Report:

"Four Board members were selected by the Secretary of State and one member from the intelligence community (IC) was selected by the Director for National Intelligence. Ambassador Thomas R. Pickering served as Chairman, with Admiral Michael Mullen as Vice Chairman. Additional members were Catherine Bertini, Richard Shinnick, and Hugh Turner, who represented the IC."

For reference, the Unclassified ARB Report can be found HERE

108 posted on 05/12/2013 6:59:40 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: bray

No one in the military chain of command had ordered a mission to Benghazi so in the sense you mean it there was no order to stand down. Someone in the military chain of command did, however,order those troops not to go. We really need to find out who that was and if that person was acting on orders from higher. We need to subpoena Gen Ham, and for other reasons, Gen Petraeus. I also find it curious that both have since lost their positions.


109 posted on 05/12/2013 7:06:45 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: PaleoBob

I worked for more than 20 years in political Washington, which is another way of saying I’ve known a lot of vile, self-serving excuses for human beings in my time—but I’m not sure ANY of them could have done what Obama, Rodham, Panetta et al did in the presence of those coffins that day.
To me, it marks an all-time low in American public life.


Agree. They are lower than pond Scum....


110 posted on 05/12/2013 7:08:49 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: csmusaret

Whoever ordered the military to not send help is who is finally at fault. It had to be Obama or the Seals would have been there and likely nobody dying.


111 posted on 05/12/2013 7:10:41 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: lodi90

They absolutely did from minute one. Hillary’s chief of staff confirmed as much the next day in emails. My guess is Victoria Nuland is the author of this particular lie, but they were all complicit in promulgating the false narrative—Obama, Clinton, Rice, Carney.


112 posted on 05/12/2013 7:10:42 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: InterceptPoint

Darryl Issa vs. David Gregory

-— at least a 30 point IQ advantage to Issa


113 posted on 05/12/2013 7:11:20 AM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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To: Fishtalk

“Madame Secretary, would you have let Chelsea stay at that Libyan embassy with the same security status as ambassador Stevens had?”


Excellent


114 posted on 05/12/2013 7:11:47 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: csmusaret

Hicks said the forces were pissed they could not go when they were a half hour away to break it up. Everyone knows who made the order and he was not sleeping in his warm bed. He was watching and cowering then making up the America’s fault excuse.


115 posted on 05/12/2013 7:12:45 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: bray

Dempsey is not technically in the chain of command but Panetta relied heavily on his Joint Chiefs. My suspicion is Dempsey advised that the situation did not justify military intervention and Panetta never elevated it to the President. I am confident that Obama had made it clear to Panetta that he wanted “plausable deniability” if anything went south. I do not trust Demsey any more than I trusted Mullen.


116 posted on 05/12/2013 7:15:59 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Brilliant as usual buddy and the revamping of the media is under way and gathering speed. Its called the New Media and we are quickly taking the place of the old commie media appropriately named the drivebys.
To compound the regimes lies/coverups jay carney tried to spin/lie, axelrod style no doubt, the 12 talking points changes(scrubbings) inferring that the changes were not made by the regime thus throwing the fired Petraeus under the bus. Good luck with that one.


117 posted on 05/12/2013 7:16:40 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: PaleoBob

Just a few bumps in he road Bob don’tchca just know.


118 posted on 05/12/2013 7:18:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: InterceptPoint
Pickering was a career diplomat now retired. His four-decade-long career in Foreign Service included ambassadorships in Russia (1993–1996); India (1992–1993); United Nations (1989–1992); Israel (1985–1988); El Salvador (1983–1985); Nigeria (1981–1983); and Jordan (1974–1978). Additionally, he served as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs from 1997 to 2000. He holds the rank of Career Ambassador, the highest in the U.S. Foreign Service.

Pickering will defend the State Department no matter what it takes. He is the last person who should chair such an investigation. You are putting the fox in charge of the hen house.

119 posted on 05/12/2013 7:18:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Alas Babylon!
not a big fan of Mike Rogers...
120 posted on 05/12/2013 7:19:55 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: PaleoBob
There is no meaningful border enforcement despite the insane lies Marco Rubio keeps telling (even in paid political ads).

FIRST they were running PRO Flake/Rubio ads on radio every 10 MINUTES last week.

SECOND, how in GOD'S name is anyone supposed to buy into the premise that just pass this law and all of a sudden for the next 3-1/2 years Zero, Big Sis, and Holder are going to start "ENFORCING" these new laws when they refuse to enforce laws that have been on the books for years? This is just beyond belief!!!

Big Sis: Obama Admin Can Pick Which Laws to Enforce
121 posted on 05/12/2013 7:19:58 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: rodguy911

My wife and I are spending Mother’s day with the kids in Key West, went fishing yesterday at the Dry Tortugas scored big! We had tuna and grouper for dinner last night. Looks like the Great Gatsby in 3D later today(no more rum runners)Happy Mothers’ Day to all Freeper moms!!


Good for you. Did you use your own boat or charter ? If charter who would recommend.


122 posted on 05/12/2013 7:20:24 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: bray

I doubt any military help would have stopped the initial attack. We should never have been there in the first place. The cardinal rule of diplomatic security is that you don’t go places where the host government cannot protect you.


123 posted on 05/12/2013 7:20:59 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

That is obvious as is leaving the Embassy open after every other country left. That said, we had enough firepower to disperse that crowd in the area. Many reports initially said we had a C-130 circling and is why Thomas? was painting the targets.

The bottom line is we had the forces and need to know who told them to stand down?


124 posted on 05/12/2013 7:24:05 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: don-o
I heard is also on Levin's show but cannot remember what night it was. All of his mp3 broadcasts are free for the listening - and downloading - at The Official Mark Levin Audio Rewind
125 posted on 05/12/2013 7:24:45 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: shalom aleichem

Sharyl is rumored to have a job offer from Glen Beck at the Blaze, if she is smart she will take it.


126 posted on 05/12/2013 7:24:51 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: maica

Gregory acts like a ‘boy cheerleaders’ in some high school Cheering squad. Lot’s of enthusiasm for dems - limited IQ. He’s the opposite of Tim Russert.

Gregory’s not even listening to Issa’s answers - just blankly looking at him - waiting for his ‘turn’ to come up again to speak.

Issa could be saying ‘red, orange, yellow and blue’ and Gregory would move on to the next prepared question. If someone asked Gregory what Issa had said, he would be clueless. Really, someone needs to do that just for the fun of it. Guy’s an airhead.

NBC needs to get someone smarter...


127 posted on 05/12/2013 7:26:23 AM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by Eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the millions of illegals home.)
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To: bray

Hicks said the forces were pissed they could not go when they were a half hour away to break it up. Everyone knows who made the order and he was not sleeping in his warm bed. He was watching and cowering then making up the America’s fault excuse.


To send troops would have meant we were at war. No way Obama wanted
That right before the election.


128 posted on 05/12/2013 7:27:21 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Alas Babylon!

This is late, but it’s the thought that counts.

To all you Mothers out there, Happy Day!!


129 posted on 05/12/2013 7:29:34 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: PaleoBob

Many of us have been disappointed in Rubio. But, do we really want to Mitt him now when we have no other feasible candidate in the wings? Is that a good wining strategy?


130 posted on 05/12/2013 7:30:08 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: GOPJ

But Gregory speaks French, how much smarter do you want? He makes a great cheerleader for the Democrat media. You must not want his utopia and are a hater.

Pray for America to Wake Up


131 posted on 05/12/2013 7:30:12 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: don-o
Regardless, I consider impeachment of The Dear Leader a remote possibility and a potential distraction at this point. The realistic hope is to remove the Dem control of the Senate while holding the House in 2014. Crippling Hillary for 2016 is icing on the cake.

AGREED, it would be a distraction and Reid would never ever convict. Suggest KC Burke's opinion is better.......

Why do we think impeachment would ever have a conviction. I don’t want impeachment.

I want crippling exposure. I want his whole progressive agenda hamstrung by his criminal and treacherous actions. I want the drip drip of exposure hamstringing his action and the future of his gang. I want dirt.

Dirt every day. Let the voters wallow in what they have elected. I want the typical person sick of this guy. Only vomiting gets rid of the poison of leftist subversion.

132 posted on 05/12/2013 7:30:33 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: bray
That is obvious as is leaving the Embassy open after every other country left. That said, we had enough firepower to disperse that crowd in the area. Many reports initially said we had a C-130 circling and is why Thomas? was painting the targets.

Benghazi was a diplomatic mission. Our embassy was in Tripoli.

The only aircraft over Benghazi was an unmanned drone, which was replaced with another one after the first one went low on fuel. There was no C-130 circling over Benghazi. Supposedly, none were available. We need more info on what assets were available. I wonder why just Aviano AFB was cited as a possible supplier of air support. I thought we had some assets available in Kuwait and perhaps Saudi Arabia.

The bottom line is we had the forces and need to know who told them to stand down?

I agree forces should have been sent regardless. We had no way of knowing how long the attack would last. We had wounded and dead plus over 30 people on the ground awaiting evacuation from Benghazi.

133 posted on 05/12/2013 7:32:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Cheerio

Hillary Clinton must never be President.


134 posted on 05/12/2013 7:33:44 AM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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Hooboy! DiFi is really acting nervous.
They are covering up.
At least she admits they got caught with their drawers down.


135 posted on 05/12/2013 7:33:58 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear what is unlawful.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Admiral Mullen...he quotes that the Joint Chief of Staff said “There was no way we could have gotten there. We interviewd everyone at the consulate that night.” “Whoa!”

Issa taking Pickern apart.


I want Issa to get the recorded conversation between Hildebeast and Stevens early on that evening of the attack - Congress needs to hear what was said. My bet is the DOS has a copy (if not destroyed) and surely NSA has one as it was an overseas call.

Boner is obstructing the formation of a select committee - that is how Issa (or whomever in the House) will get subpoena power before Hildebeast and Zero have finished destroying the eveidence. Call Boner's office and tell him to get on board or resign as the Weeper.
136 posted on 05/12/2013 7:38:01 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: ez

This aint about Hillary.
It is about Obama.

WTF was Obama?

And in the wider sense this is about the Democrat party.
WTF were we even doing in Libya? or Egypt?
IF we are going to have CIA in Libya why were they out there with no plan B?

There is a huge military presence just on the other side of the Med.
Why did they let Stevens Et al twist in the wind?


137 posted on 05/12/2013 7:38:25 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear what is unlawful.)
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To: bray
Hicks said the forces were pissed they could not go when they were a half hour away to break it up. Everyone knows who made the order and he was not sleeping in his warm bed. He was watching and cowering then making up the America’s fault excuse.

The flight time to Benghazi was one hour. The first team had already departed Benghazi at around midnight Benghazi time. The second team that was told to stand down was scheduled to depart at around 6:30 AM after the annex had been attacked and Woods and Doherty had been killed. The flight went anyway without the special ops people and flew to Benghazi. It evacuated our folks from Benghazi flying back to Tripoli.

138 posted on 05/12/2013 7:39:06 AM PDT by kabar
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David Gregory asserts that this is not watergate.

That’s right Greg.
This is worse.


139 posted on 05/12/2013 7:39:47 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear what is unlawful.)
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To: kabar
The key is no one is asking what NATO assets were available . Per sources two bases within 450 miles had forces that could have responded .

It is also know that F-16s from Italy had the range and could have been on station in under 2 hours. Remember no one asked for flyover rights that day. The drone had clearance only because it was asked for prior to the attack.

140 posted on 05/12/2013 7:41:09 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: kabar

I want to talk to the command in Sigonella Italy.

There was is a huge presence in Rota Spain.
There are folks in Toulon France


141 posted on 05/12/2013 7:43:00 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear what is unlawful.)
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To: rodguy911
Many of us have been disappointed in Rubio. But, do we really want to Mitt him now when we have no other feasible candidate in the wings? Is that a good wining strategy?

Rand is more credible and has announced his intention. Unless Cruz - my first choice, or Palin - my second, steps forward I'll go with Rand. Rubio is down around 5 or 6. Somewhere below Scott Walker.

I'll throw you a carrot however. Rubio is better than Jeb or Christie.

142 posted on 05/12/2013 7:43:32 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: kabar

I know it was a mission and Hicks was at the Embassy in Tripoli with the Seals wanting to go help a half hour away. Canada had closed their Tripoli Embassy a month earlier and we left ours open and why we would send an Ambassador to Benghazi defies logic.

This was manslaughter and no different from leaving the gate open on a lion’s den. You know what the possibilities of death are and not only do you ignore them, you don’t send help. Who made the Stand Down order?

Then you don’t ask Hicks or the people on the ground what happened and make up a lame excuse? They are so lucky they are Party members like the old Soviet Guard or they would be gone.


143 posted on 05/12/2013 7:43:39 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: bray
Only Obama could give that order and he was not sleeping, he was watching the Ambassador get murdered. He is the biggest coward to have ever occupied that desk.

Only President Can Give ‘Cross-Border Authority’
144 posted on 05/12/2013 7:43:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: maica

Spot on!

Gregory was way out of his league and Pickering came off badly. Looked smarmy and shifty.


145 posted on 05/12/2013 7:46:12 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Lacey; animal172

Who hired Craig Livingston?


146 posted on 05/12/2013 7:46:42 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: TomGuy
Illegal Immigration is relatively quiet. Hmmmmm. What is in those 800+ pages?

How 'bout a national biometric data base that out does anything in "1984?"

More. And more.

147 posted on 05/12/2013 7:46:59 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Cheerio

I thought that was the case, so it was the President and why didn’t anyone ask Hicks who gave the Stand Down order or didn’t he know?


148 posted on 05/12/2013 7:48:00 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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Here is the wider issue with all of the arab spring BS.

Obama is allowing, and dare I say enabling Al Queda to build a beach head in Africa.
They hold the entire Northern coast of Africa now and this Benghazi gate matter makes us look impotent.

I think This is all purposeful telegraphing of intent on Obamas part.

FUBO!!!


149 posted on 05/12/2013 7:48:06 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear what is unlawful.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Dick Durban on Disgrace the Nation: The Fox witch hunt continues.


150 posted on 05/12/2013 7:49:26 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If guns kill people, how come no one dies at gun shows?)
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