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Lower age of consent to 13 to protect old men from ‘persecution’: top pro-abortion lawyer
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5-9-13 | Hilary White

Posted on 05/09/2013 8:02:05 PM PDT by ReformationFan

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To: stanne

No one has said anything about women being the only sex involved in abortion, you just made up another fake post.

Women are MORE responsible for abortion than men, something that came up because you tried to make them victims to men, who you keep trying to paint as more for abortion and more responsible for abortion.

You really have something against men, and it leads you to lie about their level of participation. Men come in SECOND to females in regards to abortion.

Women are more in favor of abortion, vote for abortion in every presidential election, and have 100% of the abortions.


61 posted on 05/10/2013 6:14:47 AM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: chiefqc

It’s absolutely sickening.


62 posted on 05/10/2013 8:28:43 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: ansel12

The only problem I have on this subject is with abortion.

Men are so much more involved in abortion than assumed. This takes away from the effort to eradicate it. It’s a lie.

Who benefits most from abortion and birth control?

Who is hurt most by it, aside from the children?


63 posted on 05/10/2013 12:59:08 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

since i didn’t even write that, you’re the fn idiot.


64 posted on 05/10/2013 4:14:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Women have all the say in whether they have a child or not.”

I said that in response to this, what you said:

“. . .more women want abortion because they don’t want the children. for whatever reasons. it gives them their control.”
And:

. . . they legally have no say whether a woman has a child or not. until both have an equal say, it rests on the woman”.

I’m just saying women should wise up. They’re not smart to think abortion is for them. It’s not. It doesn’t benefit them.


65 posted on 05/10/2013 4:53:59 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

yeah and i am telling you you wrote something that was clearly something you made up and attributed to me. don’t paraphrase something you make up and say i wrote it. that is bs. we’re not liberals here, don’t make crap up.

i said what i said, it wasn’t what you said, and i stand by what i said.


66 posted on 05/10/2013 5:06:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: stanne

Who “benefits” the most from abortion, who do you think, the women doing it.

Since men don’t have babies, and the purpose of abortion is to stop being pregnant and to not have a baby, and only women get pregnant and have babies.

I would say that it is mostly a woman thing, as most polls and most voting in elections shows.

Men tend to be less pro-abortion than females in most polls, and they vote more pro-life.

You can’t just keep pointing at people doing something, 100% of it, that the abortion industry exists to supply services to, and say that they aren’t the ones MORE responsible.


67 posted on 05/11/2013 12:45:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12

Yep. Men are sitting around holding down the sofa. Nothing to do with it at all.

It’s just that for every abortion there is a father. A guy who was a willing participant until it comes to the abortion.

Yep. They’re pro life. They should all be required to witness the killing, just as should any lawmaker pushing for abortion.


68 posted on 05/11/2013 6:36:33 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Every single abortion is done by a woman, even husbands can’t prevent that according to the courts, females who date guys who want to have an abortion, do it, there is no way for the men she did a sex act with, to prevent it according to the courts, many men are not even in a position to know where some girl without a name who they had a one night stand with, is, months later.

If you don’t want abortion, vote against it like men do, if you are OK with it, then vote for it like women do.

If you want to fight abortion, spend less time expressing your neurotic hatred of men, and try to get women to stop having them done and voting to keep it legal.

If females start voting like men, then pro-life candidates get elected, and they change the laws.


69 posted on 05/11/2013 6:54:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12

Liberals bring personal attacks into discussions. they add anger. It’s part of why the House guys can’t get through Hillary.

It’s part of why we can’t get rid of abortion.

Thought is what is needed here.

The truth turns into my hating one group or another. But nothing will change until people are willing to face the truth.

and the truth is that men are able to have marital relations without any consequences. But they end up feeling guilty and depressed. they just don’t know it. A man who is willing to conceive a child and then not protect it from murder is a sorry excuse, and he knows it better than anyone.

Women who fall for this are as stupid as Hillary trying to be anything that requires competence.

But I don’t hate men. I hate abortion and I see the truth about it.


70 posted on 05/11/2013 7:10:02 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
Liberals bring personal attacks into discussions. they add anger.

That is why I pointed it out, your posts drip with venom and hatred for men, and it makes you ignore facts and keep protecting the very people who are having ALL of the abortions, and voting for the abortions.

Men play second to females in abortion, not first, as you want to pretend. A husband cannot even prevent his wife from aborting his own child.

71 posted on 05/11/2013 7:26:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: ansel12

1 What truths am I ignoring?

2 Stats, please. Men are pro life? OK. they have illicit relations, then they vote pro life?

No sale.

Point out where it states I hate men, if you want to make that statement.

The people in my family are subjected constantly to, well, I made a list, but for those who may be monitoring, I’ve deleted, as they are very busily trying to eradicate the formation of true manlihood in our culture. Let me sum it up by saying that when we watch Band of Brothers, they know that my uncle Mike O’Connor was among them and that they beat the invaders because they grew up knowing how to shoot moving objects, and Shifty Powers is a household name around here.

We think abortion is part of the attempt to deplete the natural law driven instinct in men to protect their families and to respect their mothers, aunts and sisters.

I am harsh on this subject, because I don’t like to see men allowing this.

They are being used.


72 posted on 05/11/2013 8:01:25 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Your claim is that men are MORE responsible for abortions than women.

You were so confused and eager to go after men that you called this proposal by the female abortion lawyer a ‘ruling by men, for men’ “”Just responding to this ruling. It’s for men and by men.”” well it wasn’t a “ruling” and it wasn’t “by men”, and it wasn’t “for men”, a correction that you ignored of course, because you have some weird neurotic hatred of men.

You don’t seem to know that men poll higher for being pro-life than women, and that the male vote almost always is majority pro-life, while women always vote majority pro-abortion.

You never heard of the gender gap in voting?

As far as men having sex, yes they do that when they can, but having sex with a female does not give him ownership of her, EVEN A HUSBAND CANNOT STOP HIS WIFE FROM ABORTING HIS CHILD, EVERY single abortion is done by a woman, every aborted baby is aborted by his mother.

You want to claim that women are LESS to blame than the men, well that is silly nonsense.

Sex existed long before abortion got made legal, abortion is something that a woman does to get rid of her pregnancy, and they support it and vote for it and fight for it.


73 posted on 05/11/2013 8:19:52 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

You lost me on the first sentence.

There are groups who offer support.

I am done with this conversation.


74 posted on 05/11/2013 8:21:54 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

That sentence wasn’t over your head, read our exchange again from the beginning, you point has been that men are responsible for abortion while women seem to be victims of the male imposition of legal abortion, that abortion “benefit” men, is for men, men, men, men, etc.

Even your post 72 stays with that bizarre thinking of men “”I am harsh on this subject, because I don’t like to see men allowing this.
They are being used.””

If you want to stop abortion, change the females who have the abortions and who put the pro-abortion leaders into office and keep them there.

Go to two different abortion clinics, in one, stop all the men from going in to have an abortion, in the other, stop all the females from going in to have an abortion, then add up the numbers and see which effort saved the more babies.


75 posted on 05/11/2013 8:35:20 PM PDT by ansel12
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