Skip to comments.With gun violence down, is America arming against an imagined threat? (+video)
Posted on 05/09/2013 12:15:07 PM PDT by neverdem
A Pew study released Tuesday finds that Americans think gun violence has escalated when in reality it's way down from two decades ago. The violence has dropped, meanwhile, even as gun ownership has increased.
Mass shootings, frantic gun-buying, and more Americans legally carrying guns on the street all point to a country fighting a gun violence epidemic, right?
As part of a broader trend of declining crime, gun violence in America while still high relative to other...
The gun prohibition lobby has long promoted this idea that reducing the number of guns is a good idea, that fewer guns are better categorically, says Dave Kopel, a research analyst at the Independence Institute in Denver. But here we have a real world experiment which shows the opposite, where we have a huge decline in gun crime at the same time as theres been an enormous increase in the firearms supply in the United States. It doesnt prove that the increase in gun numbers or licensed carry caused the decline, but it sure does contest the simplistic theory that more guns equal more crime....
And New York Mayor Michael Bloombergs Mayors Against Illegal Guns is spending money on ads to put pressure on key Republican and Democratic senators in Arkansas, Alaska, North Dakota, and New Hampshire to change their votes.
But while the Pew findings are dramatic, other polls suggest that Americans perceptions about the level of gun violence arent necessarily turning into political concern about the trend.
According to a new Gallup poll asking Americans about top legislative priorities, gun control and immigration reform ranked at the bottom of 12 key ideas, with creating more jobs, helping the economy grow, and making government work more efficiently pegged as the top three priorities for the country.
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is the imagined threat common crime or our government?
There is a double meaning in the article’s title that I am sure is intentional.
As far as I know, Communism has been a common enemy all my life.
The people that are stocking up are thinking of bigger threats.
Imagined threat? Gun violence is down BECAUSE we’re armed.
Holy hopping hares! Are they REALLY this clueless?
This is like saying “Why are we vaccinating our kids against polio? Nobody has polio!”
Why are blacks so violent?
And crime and gun violence has dropped MORE in States that passed conceal carry permit legislation than it has in States that did not.
Sort of like if a corrupt town hires a go-getter Police Chief and he makes a lot of arrests - guess what? According to the way they count it - CRIME GOES UP. If a crime goes unreported and a criminal unarrested - it doesn't count towards crime statistics.
Currently violent crime has not been this low since 1963. It peaked in the early 1990’s (IIRC) and has been going down for the last 20 years or so.
That’s right, Monitor, ignore the media conspiracy to make people think gun crimes are at epidemic levels.
The DNC has won the culture war.
The threat to the working class is real.
US prisons over flow with convicted violent democrats.
I think “totalitarianism” is the threat we’re all concerned about, whether it’s communist, fascist or “other.” We’re all fearful of what will happen when the economy hits bottom and our “friendly” government reaches out to “help” us.
That is the million dollar question but one that will never be addressed. If the USA did not have black crime, it would be a paradise.
European Murder Rates Compared to the United States: Demographics vs Guns
They got this exactly ass backwards.
Instead it should read that “The states are “disarming” Americans in light of an imagined threat.”
The real threat comes from the state.
Why are blacks so violent?”
You can extrapolate several reasons from the statistics.
A broken family structure (no father/single mother)
The father is missing/effectively displaced by the state as a stabilizing influence.
The state rewards multiple unwed births or offers a convenient way out. See Gosnell case for more info.
Also read “The Making of a Slave”
Is an armed America driving down gun violence?
With gun violence down, is America arming against an imagined threat?No.
Another moron who believes the Second Amendment is all about self-defense, hunting et cetera.
I’ve been told it’s the legacy of slavery and white oppression...
so I’ve been told...
Yeah, it’s making the rats absolutely insane that the more they talk about taking guns the more we buy. Ha! Coming after our guns is getting logistically and realistically harder and harder!
Cause “we” mistreated them? Well maybe somebody did but that was a long time ago. Right mr. carney?
Reminds me of a headline I gazed upon once: With crime rates so low, why are the prisons filled?
Leftists are truly amazing in their inability to see cause and effect when its staring them in the face.
With criminals locked up crime rates fall.
When innocent people can defend themselves, criminals are a disadvantage and they cant ply their trade.
Why cant Leftists figure these things out?
They can no longer credibly argue that guns should be taken away because they CAUSE violence.
So they’re arguing that they should be taken away because they are no longer needed against violence.
Let us all now carefully AVOID the REAL THREAT against which we all prepare........
Lock and load, boys and girls.
The ancestors of 90% of blacks and 90% of whites came to America after slavery was abolished.
Now stop offering up facts that contradict the story. Dad gum it. You’ll offend...........well someone I’m sure.
The Christian Science Monitor isn’t clueless it is leftist.
Because they have been oppressed all their lives. Just like those who fled King George to the American colonies. They are modern patriots.
llevrok spreading a HEAVY dose of sarcasm with that one
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Thats right, Monitor, ignore the media conspiracy to make people think gun crimes are at epidemic levels.Americans think gun violence has escalated when in reality it's way down from two decades ago.
People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations (Book I, Ch 10)Liberals love the idea that businessmen should be assumed to be colluding - but given the fact that the Associated Press newswire is a virtual meeting of all major journalists which has been in continuous operation for over a century and a half, Smiths dictum about conspiracy applies to journalists more than to anyone else. By now, according to Smith, we should expect journalism to be little else but a conspiracy against the public.And that is what we observe - journalism relentlessly criticizes anyone and everyone upon whom the public depends, but gives a pass to the untrustworthy.
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