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Why so many people – including scientists – suddenly believe in an afterlife
Maclean's ^ | May 7, 2013 | Brian Bethune

Posted on 05/07/2013 11:00:54 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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To: caww

There are many evidences of spirit, if not proofs in the modern scientific sense. Spirit is willful and it is not amenable to things like being poured out of a flask or heated over a Bunsen burner. So there is no such thing as a “modern scientific experiment” upon spirit. However spirit DOES get involved in relationships as well as in filling (for good or for evil).


61 posted on 05/07/2013 7:44:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That would depend on what your definition is of spirit or spirits is. Many accept anything abby-normal as good or an experience in the unseen world as good or from God.


62 posted on 05/07/2013 7:48:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: rickmichaels

By the way, I am skeptical of the spiritual wisdom of the “Calvinistic” approach in the sense that it is described here. While God can certainly use Calvinism’s fright to warn souls about the need of salvation, because God is not proud and does not require perfect circumstances in which to work, it can’t herald an ironclad salvational promise to accept. And so it is a half truth, not a pure gospel. It can at best say “good luck” (which is also a problem with extreme Arminianism, so I am being an equal opportunity critic here).

John Calvin himself was probably not a very strong “Calvinist,” by the way.


63 posted on 05/07/2013 7:50:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: caww

A non-physical entity that possesses a will... that’s probably a pretty good working definition. I’m not making any value judgment upon experiences with spirits. One could have an experience with Old Scratch and that would be evidence of spirit, but also perhaps not a very helpful one except as much as it may drive someone to seek God.


64 posted on 05/07/2013 7:52:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: OneWingedShark

I know. Thank you for doing good work.


65 posted on 05/07/2013 8:01:39 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: HiTech RedNeck

And what did I say that makes you think I believe otherwise?


66 posted on 05/07/2013 9:11:35 PM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: bramps

Funny one should be so touchy about being reminded, like being known in the world for believing in Jesus is an ego thing to you.


67 posted on 05/07/2013 9:14:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You’re doubling down, huh? My simple question was being ‘touchy’? Either you’re jumping threads and have me confused with someone else or you else you’re having a real bad night.


68 posted on 05/07/2013 9:26:18 PM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: bramps

Aren’t you glad to be reminded? Normal serious Christians would be. But you got touchy and blame it on me. Guess you ain’t the “tell me the old, old story” kind after all?


69 posted on 05/07/2013 9:28:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Have the water checked in your town immediately.
70 posted on 05/07/2013 9:33:56 PM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: rickmichaels
There is nothing you can do wrong.
And many believers confidently expect that God isn’t judgmental either.

That kind of talk comes straight from the devil.

71 posted on 05/07/2013 9:58:33 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
‘Old Scratch’ knows how to play a good game of ‘counterfeit’ as well documented...and those who, like him, know well how to appear as angels of light.

Many scriptures come to mind when reading of these various accounts....or discussions of...not once have they been an encouragement to believe what I'm reading or of the event, rather warnings.

“Blessed is he who believes without “seeing”.

What I have encountered with those who have such experience's is a tendency to rely on the experience entirely yet stamping it with the seal of God to legitimize it.....as many false religions do.

Also there are those who will not settle for that one time experience and continue to seek more of them...they begin “looking” for other experiences and if not finding then seek those who have had them and “feed” or keep alive the experience they've had...one hand feeding the other. I've also seen those who seek these experiences or encounters to find their faith eventually erode as the expereinces fade or cease entirely....in the end they found their faith rested far too much on what they encountered with their senses...rather than their faith being exercised/becoming stronger thru their relationship with the Lord and His word.

72 posted on 05/08/2013 1:21:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: rickmichaels
Why so many people – including scientists – suddenly believe in an afterlife

Well; they're getting OLDer and Death is starting to knock at their door...

73 posted on 05/08/2013 3:51:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mfish13
We scientists are a religious lot.

Aren't we all?

However; there is just ONE religion who has a Savior who claimed...

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.

No man comes to the Father but by me."


74 posted on 05/08/2013 3:53:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: KittenClaws
...have absolutely no idea “how” death occurs...

Well; we are still arguing when LIFE does as well!

(At least for HUMANs)

75 posted on 05/08/2013 3:55:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Viennacon
There is a Heaven.

We have 3 levels to ours...

--MormonDude(Did you know that only about 15% of us will do everything required by our church to get to reside at the HIGHEST level - where GOD will be?)

76 posted on 05/08/2013 3:58:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: KittenClaws; BipolarBob

Jesus was resurrected.
Lazarus was restored.


77 posted on 05/08/2013 3:59:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redangus
... he was being dragged to hell by a host of demons ...

Ghost had a scene in it like this...

78 posted on 05/08/2013 4:01:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Brett66
The spiritual realm is constantly trying to communicate with us on this Earth.

Yeah - the BAD ones!

79 posted on 05/08/2013 4:03:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: A'elian' nation
My friend’s SOME spirit also told the psychic...
80 posted on 05/08/2013 4:06:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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