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Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?
BBC ^ | May 1, 2013 | Alan Strathern

Posted on 05/06/2013 4:06:25 PM PDT by ifinnegan

First paragraph excerpt:

Of all the moral precepts instilled in Buddhist monks the promise not to kill comes first, and the principle of non-violence is arguably more central to Buddhism than any other major religion. So why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims and joining mobs that have left dozens dead?

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buddhism; buddhists; hinduism; india; islam; kungfu; muslims; namyang; rop; shaolin; zen
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Seems to me they are fighting back.

Yet the author seems to be making the Buddhists the bad guys.

Rather naive view of Buddhism as well -- western stereotypes.

1 posted on 05/06/2013 4:06:25 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Self Defense?


2 posted on 05/06/2013 4:07:20 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Bingo!


3 posted on 05/06/2013 4:07:43 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ifinnegan
Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?

Who cares, send them some money.

4 posted on 05/06/2013 4:08:00 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: ifinnegan
Rather naive view of Buddhism as well -- western stereotypes.

The idiot author never bothered to consider where Kung Fu comes from.

5 posted on 05/06/2013 4:09:04 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: ifinnegan

And of course they just HAD to throw in the same old cliche about the Crusades...


6 posted on 05/06/2013 4:09:14 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: ifinnegan

>>So why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims and joining mobs that have left dozens dead?

Self defense! When you are being attacked by a wolf or a shark, you defend yourself. Muslims are human sharks.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 4:09:25 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: ifinnegan
VERY Naive
8 posted on 05/06/2013 4:09:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

And guns and lawyers.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 4:10:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ifinnegan



"When you can snatch the pebble
from my hand
You will be ready,
To go out and kick those rag headed, goat humpers butts."


10 posted on 05/06/2013 4:10:42 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: ifinnegan

Since Buddhists are the good guys and the Mohammadans AREN’T, I think the answer is self-evident.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 4:12:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?

Who cares, send them some money.

Tell them to hit them like a Buddhist Payer bell on a holy day!!!!!


12 posted on 05/06/2013 4:13:20 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: ifinnegan

It’s called “self-preservation,” something the folks at the BBC will become familiar with in the not-too-distant future.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 4:13:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: ifinnegan

Not all Buddhists are passive. It is a very western view of them to be completely non-violent. The Dali Lama has spoken of aggressive force being the right action if it is meant to stop violence against yourself or others if no other course of action is possible. (albeit, he calls for the minimum amount of lethal force, such as hurting the attacker’s leg).

There is a story about the Buddha himself being aboard a ship when someone was trying to sink the boat and kill everyone. The Buddha killed that person to stop what he was doing.

Buddhism isn’t what Richard Gere and Hollywood makes it out to be.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 4:14:02 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ifinnegan

Because muzzie scum have been killing Buddhists for the last 40 or 50 years and the Buddhists finally decided they have to fight back or face extinction?


15 posted on 05/06/2013 4:14:15 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

> > Rather naive view of Buddhism as well — western stereotypes.

> The idiot author never bothered to consider where Kung Fu comes from.

Related: Kung-Fu and Karate Originated in India

http://www.hindunet.org/alt_hindu/1994_2/msg00040.html


16 posted on 05/06/2013 4:14:57 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: ifinnegan

Forget playing Cowbays and Mooselimbs...

Maybe we will have Chinamen and Mooselimbs....


17 posted on 05/06/2013 4:15:00 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: ifinnegan

“Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?”

Because Muslims have it coming to them. Endlessly attack all other religions and people, and (shocker) people may actually attack you back. When you can drive usually pacifistic Buddhist monks to violence then you’re a special kind of annoying.


18 posted on 05/06/2013 4:15:46 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: ifinnegan

Uh... actually, they’re not.

Unless you define the verb “attack” so loosely as to lose all meaning.

Adopting a critical posture - even before lay members - is not “attacking.”

The egregiously cynical author clearly has a wise-guy complex and carries a brief for Moslems.

His piece is sh*t, plain and simple.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 4:15:51 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Who cares, send them some money.

LOL, but give us the address if you have one!

20 posted on 05/06/2013 4:17:10 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Familiar seeing it, not participating in it. Which I see as a good thing really.


21 posted on 05/06/2013 4:17:57 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jyotishi

Buddhism comes from India as well.

The Western notion that the Dalai Lama speaks for all Buddhists is about as dumb as thinking the Pope speaks for all Christians.

(I do Kenpo, which is tiger and dragon style Kung Fu.)


22 posted on 05/06/2013 4:19:31 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: ifinnegan

There is always a line two far, amazing they have been as calm as they have been towards islamic thugs.


23 posted on 05/06/2013 4:20:12 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: ifinnegan

Because Buddhist monks have more balls than Obama?


24 posted on 05/06/2013 4:20:17 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Martial monks are not pacifists...


25 posted on 05/06/2013 4:20:30 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: ifinnegan
Of all the moral precepts instilled in Buddhist monks the promise not to kill comes first, and the principle of non-violence is arguably more central to Buddhism than any other major religion.

The Buddha did not issue an order to not kill he said "refrain from killing." The principle of non-aggression is more accurate than "non-violence" in regards to Buddhist precepts. Don't start nuthin' won't be nuthin.' For an example, unfortunate as the outcome was, the Tibetans most certainly put up a fight against the ChiComs and many who fought were lamas and monks.

27 posted on 05/06/2013 4:20:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhism#Persecution_by_Muslims

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamiyan_Buddhas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_non-Muslim_places_of_worship_into_mosques

Maybe they shouldn’t be screwing with Buddist Holy Places....


28 posted on 05/06/2013 4:22:48 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: ifinnegan

Because Buddhists aren’t stupid?


29 posted on 05/06/2013 4:22:56 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. Rest in peace, sweet boy. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: ifinnegan
Why are Buddhist monks isn't everybody attacking Muslims?

Fixed it.

30 posted on 05/06/2013 4:23:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: ifinnegan
Something similar is going on in Sri Lanka.

In Burma it has something to do with ethnic nationalism, even tribalism. The Muslims are associated with Bangladesh and (strangely if you know the recent history) with India.

31 posted on 05/06/2013 4:23:44 PM PDT by x
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32 posted on 05/06/2013 4:25:38 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ifinnegan

“So why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims and joining mobs that have left dozens dead?”
Ummm..... Survival?


33 posted on 05/06/2013 4:27:13 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: ifinnegan
It is puzzling because neither country is facing an Islamist militant threat. Muslims in both places are a generally peaceable and small minority.

That is part of their M.O. When their numbers become large enough, look at what they do in France and other European countries. Eventually, they will openly burn churches, monasteries and rape and murder non-Muslims like in Egypt.

34 posted on 05/06/2013 4:27:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: ifinnegan

..because they wish to remain infidels


35 posted on 05/06/2013 4:27:53 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

LOL


36 posted on 05/06/2013 4:30:18 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization))
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To: ifinnegan

I would take exception to a couple of points. The Generals in Burma have, for some time, controlled the Sangha in Burma to promote aggressive feelings against ethnic minorities, especially the Karen Christians, in the mountains on the east of Burma. So Buddhism has, as the writer states, been twisted to the interests of the government.

However, the Muslims are invading from an overcrowded and starving Bangladesh. The want the farm land traditionally held by Buddhists. The original spark, if I recall, was a brutal rape and murder of a young Buddhist girl by five Muslims. It’s been back and forth after that with neither side acting well.

The press has been 100% behind the Muslims. The Muslims are out to conquer Burma with UN backing.


37 posted on 05/06/2013 4:31:52 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

So why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims

Since what the BBC would consider “Hate Speech” would be reciting all the inconveint parts of the quaran, well most of it anyways....

Heck in the Uk, Hate speech would be giving a mooselimb a blank disapproving stare....


38 posted on 05/06/2013 4:32:10 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: ifinnegan
It is puzzling because neither country is facing an Islamist militant threat. Muslims in both places are a generally peaceable and small minority.

Alan Strathern, the author, is an ignorant idiot. Not only does he not understand Buddhism he is apparently clueless about recent history in Sri Lanka.

39 posted on 05/06/2013 4:32:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: ifinnegan

“Rather naive view of Buddhism as well — western stereotypes.”

As a Buddhist, I completely agree.


40 posted on 05/06/2013 4:33:39 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: ifinnegan

Maybe it is because all truly religious Muslims are inherently evil. Evil doesn’t succumb to non-violence.


41 posted on 05/06/2013 4:34:53 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: JimSEA

Also, Buddhism in most of its variations has a recognition of a just war. It isn’t a suicide pact like the Jains have too often been.


42 posted on 05/06/2013 4:35:28 PM PDT by JimSEA
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The press has been 100% behind the Muslims.

I'm going to go way out on a limb and guess that you are speaking of the liberal Western press of Europe and America.

43 posted on 05/06/2013 4:35:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: mnehring

But the Dalai Lama was the one who ran away from Tibet and then told the Tibetans not to resist the Chinese.


44 posted on 05/06/2013 4:38:09 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

(I do Kenpo, which is tiger and dragon style Kung Fu.)

I do Crown Royal and carry a weapon, several if I need to.


45 posted on 05/06/2013 4:39:05 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That is part of their M.O. When their numbers become large enough, look at what they do in France and other European countries.

The time to deal with a problem is BEFORE it has grown to a size that makes it very difficult to fix.

46 posted on 05/06/2013 4:40:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ifinnegan

The muslims have been waging a war against the Buddist in Southern Thailand for many decades, much of it goes unnoticed in western media (like everything else evil the muslims do). Buddist temples bombed, children going to Buddist schools abducted and murdered, and Buddist Monks beheaded in their own temples. The Thai government is trying to appease the muslim, without success. The Buddist are getting tired of the whole mess and fighting back. And yes, the author is partially correct, a Buddist Monk will not murder, but he can kill in defense.


47 posted on 05/06/2013 4:41:47 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: kabumpo

Not true. He was removed from Tibet by the Khampas against his will and after his exile secretly helped his brother find funding for the Khampa resistance that went on for a decade or more afterward.


48 posted on 05/06/2013 4:41:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: kabumpo

The only thing I can think of is how futile resistance would have been, especially in the cultural perspective of the Tibetans and Chinese. Definitely a wrong call by the Dalai Lama but expected.


49 posted on 05/06/2013 4:44:29 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: ifinnegan
Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?

Wow, talk about a no brainer. Monks ain't stupid and they aren't into mass suicide.

But most importantly, they are probably a little p!$$ed that mudslimes are stingy with the tithes.

50 posted on 05/06/2013 4:47:11 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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