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To: Buckeye McFrog; All
The Brits supposedly monitored the ones between two US points.

If this is the case and such monitoring was negotiated through a treaty with the Brits, this would be an abuse of federal government power to negotiate treaties imo. Not only had Thomas Jefferson warned about such abuses of treaty power, but the Supreme Court had officially clarified that such abuse is unconstitutional.

"In giving to the President and Senate a power to make treaties, the Constitution meant only to authorize them to carry into effect, by way of treaty, any powers they might constitutionally exercise." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

"Surely the President and Senate cannot do by treaty what the whole government is interdicted from doing in any way." --Thomas Jefferson: Parliamentary Manual, 1812.

"2. Insofar as Art. 2(11) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice provides for the military trial of civilian dependents accompanying the armed forces in foreign countries, it cannot be sustained as legislation which is "necessary and proper" to carry out obligations of the United States under international agreements made with those countries, since no agreement with a foreign nation can confer on Congress or any other branch of the Government power which is free from the restraints of the Constitution (emphasis added)." --Reid v. Covert, 1956.


55 posted on 05/06/2013 2:00:42 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: y'all
Get up to speed on the National Security Agency's (NSA) Utah Data Center with the video below. It includes William Binney who worked for the NSA for 32 years and led a team that developed software designed to sort through mountains of electronic data.

He says that within about a week after September 11, 2001, NSA "decided to start spying on the U.S. domestically, on all U.S. citizens they could get". He says the data center in Utah has the capacity (five zettabytes) to store all worldwide communication for 100 years.

Safety or surveillance: What is the NSA's Utah Data Center?

By John Hollenhorst - October 25th, 2012 - © 2013 ksl.com | KSL Broadcasting Salt Lake City UT

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=22705217

57 posted on 05/06/2013 3:29:58 PM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: Amendment10
If this is the case and such monitoring was negotiated through a treaty with the Brits, this would be an abuse of federal government power to negotiate treaties imo.

I rather doubt it is anything so formal and as well documented as a treaty, it's just an understanding...

74 posted on 05/07/2013 8:11:50 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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