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Reforming Immigration Reform: Five ways to fix the Gang of Eight’s legislation
National Review ^ | 05/06/2013 | Yuval Levin

Posted on 05/06/2013 6:23:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; gangofeight; illegals; immigration; reform

1 posted on 05/06/2013 6:23:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

2 posted on 05/06/2013 6:28:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

This thing should not be salvaged. And Rubio has realized how much he’s hurt himself selling the Obama/Schumer/McCain/Rubio amnesty ruse and is now trying to limit the damage with all the talk of amending and improving.

He was making a hard sell of the plan as it was introduced until a few days ago.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 6:28:26 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind

1) KILL IT
2) KILL IT
3) KILL IT
4) KILL IT
5) KILL IT

LLS


4 posted on 05/06/2013 6:31:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Will88

rubio has lied to our faces... rubio is a leftard dim with anti-American agendas and should be shunned by ALL thinking Conservatives.

LLS


5 posted on 05/06/2013 6:32:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

First, call them what they are—THE GANG OF OCHO.

Kill the bill, and just ENFORCE THE DAMN LAW AS IS!!!


6 posted on 05/06/2013 6:36:02 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: SeekAndFind; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; ...

Weak suggestions, here’s some better ones to add:

1) no citizenhip unless they want to leave the US and get on line with the others.
2) No government benefits including none for their dependents, they must fully support their dependents wo government help for the entire 10+ year trial period.
3) They must meet all requirements of Obama-care, as do their employers wo any government assistance including that from local government $$$.
4) No fast track 5 years for Dreamers
5) No political activity including unions
6) No loopholes that allow past ID fraud to be ignored

You know a bill is crap if Dems support it Rubio.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 6:36:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

No EITCs, that’s just welfare


8 posted on 05/06/2013 6:38:42 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Will88

Why does every bill submitted have to be fixed.
Can Congress not write legislation in the correct manner to start with. Salvage is not an option. Go back to the drawing board and write a bill that makes sense. No need for pork perks to become a citizen. Is not Citizenship enough?
The gang of 8 decided they need the Hispanic vote when they do become citizens, the present citizens are to be sent the tab
for feel good legislation. “Hey Latinos! Remember the Gang of 8 when you get the vote!”


9 posted on 05/06/2013 6:43:56 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Conserev1

Like Rush kept trying to tell Rubio a couple weeks ago when he was on his show, “why can’t the Republicans just say No”?

Just say no there does not always have to be a compromise.


10 posted on 05/06/2013 6:46:39 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: All

The grinning, self-satisfied smug, arrogant look on the
faces of the Tsarnaev brothers looks awfully familiar.

It's b/c we've seen the defiant, unflinching
gaze, and those phony smiles, many times.

Pasted on the faces of illegals swarming
over our borders, blotting our landscape.

Boston was just a prelude to the destruction the latter are hatching.

11 posted on 05/06/2013 6:50:20 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

Basically if we had an umlimited right for Israelies to work in this country as they find a job about 75% of the establishment support for open borders would disappear. Mr. Levin contrary to what your relatives have said not all of us are “gentile headed.” Now the remaining 25% could be rolled up within a couple of weeks because the correlation between cheap labor to mow lawns and social disfunction of the labor brought in to do that is damn near a 1.0 correlation.


12 posted on 05/06/2013 6:53:19 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: sickoflibs

Let me add to that. No chain migration, no anchor babies from this day forward, and no path to citizenship other than the existing path of applying in your home country. If you are here on a work permit, go home and apply.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 6:59:18 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: junta

Of course I am omitting references to other H1-B ethnic hustlers like the Indians, but they could be rolled up fairly easy since their publicity functions are handled by other ethnic hustlers who find the Indians to be useful, for now. Friend of mine was a head honcho for a software company and she had no need for mass immigration policy to run a global enterprise based on knowledge/tech, just a phone line sufficed. Yes you can call from Ireland and India, its called technology.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 7:00:40 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One more: No immigration reform unless congress makes English the official language and no ballots or other goverment data will be published in any other language other than English.


15 posted on 05/06/2013 7:00:40 AM PDT by McGavin999
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RE :”Let me add to that. No chain migration, no anchor babies from this day forward, and no path to citizenship other than the existing path of applying in your home country. If you are here on a work permit, go home and apply.”

That last one was already on my posted list #1.

I am thinking more along the lines that they must not get any Federal assistance nor their kids, and they must fully support their kids including health insurance and they must pay some minimum Federal tax rate, no EITC.

That should eliminate many of them from consideration and the few that apply will actually produce.
Rubio sells that bill as the same but is a fraud.

Businesses want to hire low skill low wage workers who get partially supported by tax payers(medicaid food stamps) , just raise the local sales and gas taxes to pay for them. These businesses pay both parties.

16 posted on 05/06/2013 7:10:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just listened to some toad from the Wall Street Journal on FNC saying that these immigrants would all be “hardworking” and paying taxes. My question is, how are they going to keep them from being in the 52% that doesn’t pay taxes? The way I see it, these immigrants would jack up the number of people getting the earned income tax credit. This whole amnesty thing is nothing but a big joke. On us.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 7:19:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is the root cause of violent crime in Mexico. - Barack Hussein Obama Jr.)
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To: Will88

FIX IT???? F’N KILL IT YESTERDAY!


18 posted on 05/06/2013 7:22:35 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“I just listened to some toad from the Wall Street Journal on FNC saying that these immigrants would all be “hardworking” and paying taxes.”

The WSJ are notoriously open border hacks and have been so from day one.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 7:24:01 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

The whole thing was very irritating. They talked like once the illegals are giving amnesty, the economy was going to boom. They would be “paying taxes” and creating businesses to hire more people. What a load. The “experts” didn’t say how they would get these illegals into the tax brackets that pay taxes. However, when you ask anyone that question, they always come up with that old “they’ll be paying taxes on beer and cigarettes” explanation.


20 posted on 05/06/2013 7:28:12 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is the root cause of violent crime in Mexico. - Barack Hussein Obama Jr.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
However, when you ask anyone that question, they always come up with that old “they’ll be paying taxes on beer and cigarettes” explanation.

And don't forget buying lottery tickets.

Cause everybody knows that the lottery proceeds ALL go to make schools better. Cause that is what we were told when they wanted to institute the lottery in any state.

The Lottery! It's for the children!

21 posted on 05/06/2013 7:36:48 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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