Skip to comments.US tanker plane 'crashes in Kyrgyzstan after take off'
Posted on 05/03/2013 4:16:35 AM PDT by cunning_fish
A US cargo plane has crashed after taking off from an airbase in Kyrgyzstan, local reports say.
The tanker aircraft had left the US Manas airbase near the capital Bishkek, officials told AFP.
The emergency situations ministry said the plane had broken into three pieces but information about casualties has yet to be released.
Seven crew members died when a US civilian cargo plane crashed at Bagram airbase in Afghanistan on Monday.
Witnesses of the Kyrgyzstan crash told local media that they heard a boom and saw an explosion.
The transport plane was carrying a cargo of fuel when it disappeared off the radar near the mountain village of Chaldybar, close to the border with Kazakhstan, Reuters reported.
The US military uses the Manas airbase to maintain its operations in Afghanistan.
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In one short article they call it a tanker plane, a cargo plane, and a transport plane.
Plane explodes in air before crash 03/05-2013 15:02, Bishkek 24.kg news agency , by Munara BOROMBAYEVA Plane exploded in the air before its crash in the mountains nearby Chaldovar village, local resident Nurlan Derdenov told 24.kg news agency .
According to him, the students have managed to shot the crash using their cell phones. When falling down, the aircraft hit a high-voltage power line. It is still not known, was it a passenger or cargo aircraft.
“The local emergency team and the police went to the scene of the accident,” he added.
This is two major plane crashes in a week.
No money for military maintenance?
Plenty for illegals.
"...when it disappeared off the radar near the mountain village of Chaldybar, close to the border with Kazakhstan
"students have managed to shot the crash using their cell phones."
"The Associated Press by telephone that the plane broke into three pieces when it crashed into an uninhabited area."[twitter link]So we are to 'understand' that in an 'uninhabited area" of Kyrgyzstan students just happen to be standing, with their cell phones handy to capture video of an American military plane break into pieces before it crashes ?
Give our leaders time to tell us what to believe. Do not look at any pictures or videos until our overlords release the ones we should see.
Good points. Seems odd, to say the least.
Others know better, but It seems like a refueler
Muslim resistance retribution for the capture of the Boston bombers?
If it’s a KC-10, then it is all three.
The KC-135R is equipped with the newer CMF-56 engine vs. the old KC-135A with the J-57 engine, which also used water injection of 5,581 lbs 550 gallons of demineralized water on take-off. Normal take-off was to 1,000 ft remaining pull back on the stick and hope to God it flew. During the mid-1980’s we were losing one crew a year in the old steam jets. One of the reasons I volunteered to cross-train from my flight position as a Boom Operator over to the KC-10A, Extender. The average R model tanker was built as an A model 1957-1964. Considering some of these aircraft are as old as I was when I flew them (a couple even older), it is a testament to the maintenance crews and aircrew that these museum pieces still fly. I will be praying for the safety of the aircrew, but realize how bad it can be when a flying gas station impacts the ground.
No Body Kicks Ass Without Tanker Gas (NBKAWTG) KC-135A/Q/RT Instructor Boom Operator 1979-1985
Who was conveniently on this plane that didnt survive?
Ron Brown BUMP.
Isn’t this the second one in two days?
Those suckers could definitely be anywhere in the world by now.
"BISHKEK, Kyrgyzstan (AP) A U.S. military refueling tanker plane crashed Friday in Kyrgyzstan, the Central Asian nation's emergencies ministry said. There was no immediate word on any casualties.AP
Kyrgyzstan hosts a U.S. base that is used for flying troops into and out of Afghanistan and for KC-135 tanker planes that refuel warplanes in flight.
The plane crashed Friday afternoon near the village of Chaldovar, about 100 miles (160 kilometers) west of the Manas air base, the ministry said in a statement. It identified the plane as a Boeing 707, but that is a civilian airliner on which the KC-135 tanker is based.
The plane broke into three pieces when it crashed into an uninhabited area, the head of the region that includes Chaldovar, Kuralbek Khamaliyev, told The Associated Press by telephone.
The U.S. base in Kyrgyzstan, called the Transit Center at Manas, said it had no immediate information. The base, which is adjacent to the Manas International Airport outside the Kyrgyz capital of Bishkek, was established in late 2001 to support the international military campaign in Afghanistan.
The base has been the subject of a contentious dispute between the United States and its host nation. In 2009, the U.S. reached an agreement with the Kyrgyz government to use the base in return for $60 million a year.
But the lease runs out in June 2014 and the United States wants to keep the base beyond that point to aid in the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
Yes, it seems like a planes drops like flies in that part of the world recently.
And I’ve been on board those planes. The crews are the best in the world.
Don’t think these are accidents.
Where did those manpads from Libya go?
Everywhere. There are 20000+ of them.
>>Good to see this Government set its piorties straight/
Straight and Nappy.
Are we still flying the old A model KC-135s or have they all been re-engined with the CFM-56s?
One was a civilian plane.
Well, it could be all three if the fuel was to unloaded at the destination (fuel being transported cargo and being stored in tanks), but a better descriptor would be nice.
Carrying a cargo of fuel. Tight security over there? How convenient/easy would it be for someone to sneak an explosive on board before take off?
Don’t think so.
More likely is the possibility of weapons from Libya shooting at the plane.
Unfortunately they are flying the old tankers still. One reason it has been a big interest in the tanker community to procure a new weapon system. Havent seen a new tanker since the 1980s, which were only 60 KC-10s, with only 59 remaining in the fleet. I watched the missing one burn to the ground on 17 Sep 87 at Barksdale AFB, LA. Great day to have a crew bus 15 minutes late or I would have been up close and personal on the aircraft parked next to it.
The cargo plane was a separate incident just the other day. It crashed on takeoff, presumably from a load that shifted aft or it wasn’t loaded properly in the first place. There is a video of it on youtube.
Interesting - 2 crashes in that area, days apart - within a month since Boston. Have there been similar “accidents” there in the past?
The ones remaining in service have all been re-engined. However, they still have the same old airframe, many of them built well over 50 years ago.
They require a lot of maintenance to keep them flying. I suspect that has been cut to the bone, plus they have been run hard since 9/11/2001. It is a wonder we haven't lost more of these as well as other older aircraft. We have a rapidly aging and ridden hard fleet of military aircraft in all categories.
We had the old KC-135A Water Wagons in Saudi when we started Elf-One in the 1980s. As the Vice-Commander I was always having to respond to the locals in Riyadh about the dark black smoke they put out on take off as they climb over the city.
This is two major plane crashes in a week.
The first one was a commercial/contractor 747.
A responsible thing for an USAF General to do is ground all these aircraft until what caused this crash is known.
This might be over-reacting, but one saying is better safe than sorry.
But then the lives of US Service Personnel are cheap to Obama and company.
He apparently is more concerned with the issue of Gay professional athletes than the safety of US Personnel (Benghazi as an example).
That was my thought.
Even if that isn’t what brought this plane down, this gives us a picture of what the foreign enemy combatant in our White House is capable of doing to our military by arming others to do the job for him (and then he can blame them and pretend he’s doing everything he can to prevent terrorist attacks while his hands are under the table giving weapons to Al Qaeda and his wife is in the hospital high-fiving Bin Laden’s son Hamza for the Boston bombing).
There is more to that story
Dear Ole’ Uncle has CIA connections through Graham Fuller.
Has has worked for a known front of the CIA as well
Don’t know what the Mysterious Uncle Ruslan is doing now.
That's on a 2 mile long runway I presume. I used to watch them taking off while standing fairly safely by an ATC radar.
With 20,000+ manpads on the loose, we have nothing to fear with Obama as C-in-C, now do we?
[ /sarcasm off ]
Right now I’m 60/40 accident/manpad.
One of the reasons I have hearing problems is the noise caused by the water injection. My first flight out of Castle AFB as a student was number 4 in a 4 ship Minimum Interval Take-Off (MITO) 12 seconds behind the tanker in front of us with 2 B-52s also flying water wagons in the lead. All we could see was black smoke until we rotated. At the time I was too young and dumb to figure out how damn dangerous that was. The steam jet would really make the earth move.
That’s because the KC-135 is all three. It has extra fuel tanks in the fuselage to transfer fuel, it has a large open fuselage inside to haul cargo, and it can have seats installed (or you can ride the horrible benches in it) to act as a transport.
They were all reengined a long time ago. The last E model (with the TF-33) is in the boneyard now as well. All that are left are R models.
They can’t. The USAF doesn’t have enough airlift as it is, and the -135 plays a vital role in that mission, as well as the tanker mission. With only the KC-10 to take over that would leave no tankers left to perform the mission if they grounded the -135 as a precaution.
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