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Chechen ‘clean skins’ link to bombing rings US alarm bells
The Times (UK) ^ | Last updated at 3:34PM, April 19 2013 | Michael Evans Pentagon Correspondent

Posted on 04/29/2013 10:46:58 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I would think your thinking is correct. :)


21 posted on 04/29/2013 4:10:44 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the detailed explanation. It now makes sense to me.


22 posted on 04/29/2013 4:12:03 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: SJackson
RE: "But what did GWB and Chertoff know."
GWB shall be vindicated as time marches on.
23 posted on 04/29/2013 4:17:02 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: SJackson

From your 2007 link - “”clean-skin” terrorists from Europe, meaning those who travel with completely legitimate documents.”

One excuse of Big T going to Russia last year was to get a Russian passport. He got US legal permenant residency in 2008 but didn’t apply for US citizenship until last year. Here’s a timeline I’ve been working on:

Boston bombers’ timeline:

Oct. 21, 1986 – Big T born in Kalmykia, Russia. Mama Zubeidat, does not dress Islamic.
1994 – Tsarvaev family fled to Kyrgystan at beginning of Chechen war. Aunt Maret Tsarvaev states Anzor, a mechanic, was persecuted by Kyrgystan police for stealing cars so paid them bribes.
? – Family moves to mama’s hometown of Makhachkala in Russian republic of Dagestan.
March 2002 – Papa, mama and White cap seek political asylum and immigrate to US. Big T and sisters are left with Maret in Kyrgyzstan. Family gets on welfare.
July 19, 2003 – Maret brings Big T, age 16, and his two younger sisters to the US.
2006 – Big T’s amazon.com wish list shows radical leanings. Nadine Lopez Ascencao begins dating him and states he was a bully in high school.
June 2006 – Big T graduated from Cambridge Rindge and Latin high school and made friends with international students.
Sept 2006 to 2008 – Big T attends community college part time
2008 – mama and Big T get more into ROP and mama starts wearing hijab. Reports are Mikhail “Misha” Allakhverdov, an Armenian-Ukrainian, was influential in radicalizing them. (Misha’s father is an Armenian Christian and his mother is an ethnic Ukrainian. The family had lived in Baku, Azerbaijan, but had left in the early 1990s for the United States to escape growing persecution of Armenian Christians there. He claims he hasn’t had contact with Big T since he and his parents moved from Boston to RI in 2010)
July 19, 2008 - Big T and mama have been in America for the required 5 years so are eligible for US citizenship. Big T gets legal permanent residency. At some point mama gets US naturalization.
2009 - Big T forcing mama to wear hijabs, etc. and forces family members to quit drinking, smoking, partying in accordance of islam. Or mama became more Islamic on her own. Papa has concerns over mama’s transformation.
2009 – Big T and Uncle Ruslan, of Maryland, have falling out. Big T calls uncle an infidel. Big T quit work and college. Uncle says Big T getting radicalized at Cambridge mosque. Uncle Ruslan’s ex-wife is daughter of high ranking CIA officer Fuller who had many years of dealings with middle east. Amazon.com shows author Fuller is living in Vancouver, Canada and many writings on ROP.
2009 – Katherine Russell converts to islam
April 2009 - Big T’s wrestling magazine article. Wants to represent US in Olympics and become naturalized US citizen although he doesn’t have any friends and doesn’t understand Americans. Boxing club president stated he was an underachiever because he did not dedicate himself to the proper training regimen.
July 28, 2009 – Big T arrested for beating live in girlfriend, Nadine. He wanted her to convert, wear hijab and share his hatred of US.
2010 – Big T’s domestic abuse case dismissed.
2010 – boxing club owner meets Big T who dressed like he was John Travolta Saturday Night Fever on the runway
2010 - Golden Gloves of America changed rules to ban non-US citizens at Tournament of Champions level.
2010 - Russia begins to notice radical change in Big T
June 21, 2010 – Big T license to marry Katherine Russell of RI at a mosque new to family. They have a daughter, Zahira.
? – Sister Ailina divorces Elmirza Khozhugov and moves back in with mama.
2011 – Aunt Maret, of west of Toronto, Canada reports Big T is praying five times daily. Maret hasn’t seen brothers since about 2008.
2011 – parents divorce and papa moves back to Russia
March 2011 - Russia intercepts calls between mama and both brothers and sends warning to FBI. Mama also on phone with another person on FBI list (Misha?)
April 2011 or June 2011 - FBI closes file on Big T and mama
June 2011 - White cap graduates from Cambridge Rindge and Latin high school
Sept 2011 - Russia sends second warning, this time to CIA. At some point, US officials meet with family at their home and Big T is defiant to them.
Sept 2011 to Nov 2012 – Big T and Katherine get welfare. She is working, he isn’t.
Sept 2011 to June 2012 - White cap gets failing grades in college
Sept 11, 2012 – Big T’s best friend and two other Jewish men were murdered – throats slit, marijuana and money scattered over bodies. Suspicion is now on Big T
Oct 2011 - CIA puts mama on terrorist list
Jan 12, 2012 - Big T goes to Russia. Papa claims he was with him the whole time but US officials claim papa wasn’t in Dagestan at that time. Before leaving Russia, he applies to replace his soon to expire passport from the Republic of Kyrgyzstan with a Russian one but returns to US before receiving it.
June 2012 - Mama arrested for shoplifting
July 17, 2012 - Big T returns to US
Aug 2012 – Big T creates Youtube terrorist videos showing Imarat Kavkaz militant Islamic group from Caucasus and Abu Dujana, a jihadist leader
Sept 5, 2012 – Big T applies for US citizenship which is delayed because of closed FBI investigation
Sept 11, 2012 - White cap gets US citizenship
November 2012 - Mama skips out on shoplifting court date and goes to Russia
Nov 2012 – Big T rants in mosque
Nov 2012 – Big T rants at muslim shopkeeper who advertised Thanksgiving turkeys
Jan 18, 2013 – Big T rants again in mosque and is asked to leave
Feb 6, 2013 – Big T purchases fireworks


24 posted on 04/29/2013 5:30:36 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bgill

Interesting timeline, warnings there. I wouldn’t limit the threat to Europeans.


25 posted on 04/29/2013 6:07:55 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the info.


26 posted on 04/29/2013 6:40:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: bgill; thouworm; penelopesire
Maybe at some time that ought to be put up as the start to a thread....I haven't read thru it....I can barely keep up with comments on the threads on this topic.

But there are those doing some tremendous digging on the Friends of the Bombers that will chew on it.

27 posted on 04/29/2013 6:47:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good idea. You sound like me..busy day and trying to catch up!


28 posted on 04/29/2013 7:11:08 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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29 posted on 04/29/2013 7:25:52 PM PDT by BikerTrash
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To: SJackson

BLAM! Take a dirt nap skank....


30 posted on 04/29/2013 8:07:44 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: MHGinTN

We are being overwhelmed by a gang of invaders and inside traitors! These inside traitors are selling their country for their own political power. They are no different than the Vichy French who sold their country to the Nazi facists, and Venezuelan chavistas who are selling out their country to the Castro Mafia.


31 posted on 04/30/2013 8:41:11 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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