Upstate NY takes a bad rap because of NYC, Ithaca, and the cities, but much of Upstate is VERY rural, bordering on desolate and there are more guns and cows than people.
I wouldn't want to be in any of the cities, but here, out in the country, we have more than our share of outspoken, gun toting conservatives. I know of a couple patriot groups which are forming.
my beloved upstate NY.....take care of her.....