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Copper Calls The Economic Recovery BS (Dr Copper)
The Market Oracle ^ | 4-28-2013 | Graham Summers

Posted on 04/28/2013 7:30:26 AM PDT by blam

Copper Calls The Economic Recovery BS

Economics / Global Economy
April 27, 2013 - 03:08 PM GMT
By: Graham Summers

For the last four years, the financial world has traded largely based on hope of more intervention from Central Banks.

That was and is the single driving factor of the markets. Good news was good news (it’s a recovery!) but bad news was even better (the Fed will have to print more money!) as far as stocks were concerned.

However, against this backdrop several issues began to develop. The single most important one was Copper, which has a great record of anticipating real economic growth:

Note that Copper signified an end to the economic “recovery” story back in 2011. Since that time, it’s been in decline. In fact, it’s just taken out its “recovery’ trendline dating back to 2009.

This signifies that the world economy is slowing. It tells us point blank that things are not well in the world.

Just as importantly, it shows that the claims that QE and Central Bank money printing generate real economic growth are false.

Copper can’t fudge statistics to meet political agendas. It doesn’t lie under oath. It moves based on supply and demand. And demand has been falling since 2011.

Investors take note, the markets are sending multiple signals that things are not going well in the world. Copper is forecasting a nasty summer.

I’ve been warning subscribers of my Private Wealth Advisory that we were heading for a dark period in the markets. I’ve outlined precisely how this will play out as well as which investments will profit from another bout of Deflation.

As I write this, all of them are SOARING.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commodities; copper; economy; gold
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Copper is called Dr Copper because it's price has the undisputed ability to accurately predict future economic activity.

It ain't happy presently!

1 posted on 04/28/2013 7:30:26 AM PDT by blam
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To: Jet Jaguar
Gold Could Collapse Just Like Bitcoin
2 posted on 04/28/2013 7:36:29 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

3 posted on 04/28/2013 7:37:28 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

When the heck is the price of ammo going to come down?


4 posted on 04/28/2013 7:37:43 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50c)
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To: blam
The Most Over Bought And Over Sold Markets In The World


5 posted on 04/28/2013 7:43:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: mylife
"When the heck is the price of ammo going to come down?"

It'll be when people feel that their government isn't plotting against them.

Probably not in my lifetime.

6 posted on 04/28/2013 7:46:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
with all the ammo mfg's running full tilt i'd think copper would be doing better than that... but i guess that is a small sector of the overall market
7 posted on 04/28/2013 7:49:11 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: blam

“Not in my lifetime”.

There’s several ways of interpreting that ... none of them good.


8 posted on 04/28/2013 7:58:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Chode
with all the ammo mfg's running full tilt i'd think copper would be doing better than that... but i guess that is a small sector of the overall market

I would guess so too. I would think wiring, tubing and sheets are the primary forms used for most capital goods production and probably why coppper can be a reliable indicator. I would think housing, automobiles, electric motors, transformers, electronic devices and switch gear are the biggest consumers and if they are down, copper reflects what those industries are doing. The article makes a lot of sense from that standpoint and if production of capital goods is down, future production of everything will be down.

9 posted on 04/28/2013 8:00:12 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta
something wicked this way comes...
10 posted on 04/28/2013 8:17:49 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: blam; M. Espinola; Jack Hammer; Lorianne; SeekAndFind; moneyrunner; Smokin' Joe
Sad but true. Yet so completely 100% predictable . . . All the mainstream media hype is BS:

For Most Americans -- Your biggest assets are Social Security

Medicare Commentary: Elites want to cut them because they don’t need them.

11 posted on 04/28/2013 10:52:35 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: blam; M. Espinola; Jack Hammer; Lorianne; SeekAndFind; moneyrunner; Smokin' Joe
Now Obama Wants Your Pension !

If yo are one of the 15% that sill have a "pension," mostly made obsolete by "reform" legislation over the last 25 years -- as the elites consolidated their total control over everything. Your 401(k) has already been made non-existent by the Fed's program of gradual monetary inflation. Elites want everybody BK and dependent on government handouts.

They have turn the US into a sham based on Russia, China and Nazi Germany.

12 posted on 04/28/2013 11:09:12 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: jiggyboy; PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; Jet Jaguar; ...

Goldbug ping.


13 posted on 04/28/2013 12:57:40 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Chode

A pittance.

Last time I looked at the copper market in detail, the major buyers of copper went like this:

- electrical wire
- plumbing & tubing
- motor windings

Then we move down to brass and other alloys - which have historically been about 20% of copper consumption in the US in total, and out of all that alloy consumption, you’ll find copper consumption in ammo, which will be pretty small by comparison.

The industrial market segment is starting into a for-real slowdown, and copper is showing us this in the prices. The real elephant in the room is China.


14 posted on 04/28/2013 3:40:21 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: ex-Texan

People have no property right or expectation of a payout of Social Security as they would in a pension.

Flemming v. Nestor, US Supreme Court, 1960.


15 posted on 04/28/2013 3:42:10 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
didn't they buy an almost ungodly amount of physical copper(and a few other things) over the last few years afraid the price was going to go up?
16 posted on 04/28/2013 3:54:47 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Yes, they bought huge amounts of “cathode” - barely refined copper. They stockpiled a huge amount of it...


17 posted on 04/28/2013 5:12:20 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave; blam; M. Espinola; Jack Hammer; Lorianne; SeekAndFind; moneyrunner; Smokin' Joe; ...
I agree with you 100% -- no guaranteed legal right to a share in this government Ponzi Scheme. It's all house of cards. LOL !

In the meantime, new events are afoot:

US health leader warns of human-to-human H7N9 bird flu

Please pass the word . . .

18 posted on 04/29/2013 10:50:48 AM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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To: ex-Texan

I still have all my supplies from the H5N1 pandemic, ahem.


19 posted on 04/29/2013 11:13:56 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Please spread this report far and wide:

Next Country to Collapse Is Not Europe !

All my economic predictions seem to come true just like thehousing bubble . . . LOL !

20 posted on 04/29/2013 4:33:11 PM PDT by ex-Texan (The Time to "Wake Up" is Over !)
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