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To: BereanBrain
Nothing INSIDE the earth is infinite.

That was exactly what I was saying. My post said, specifically,

"The earth is finite, and so are fossil fuels. They may be renewable, however. And there might be more than we could ever use.

For that, I have been treated to several rounds of people trying to redefine infinity. My new definition of infinity is "the lengths to which people will go to redefine the language to suit themselves." I have learned that much in this discussion. Thank you for that.

Don't know what you mean by "straw man". I made a statement that is unquestionable. In fact, in the very article, it states:

"Far from being infinite, Laherrère said, petroleum supplies are finite by definition. The Earth contains only so many hydrocarbon molecules that can be extracted by human effort. “Once we have used up the easy oil, new types of cheap energy will not appear by magic. We will keep drilling for oil, and it will not be easy to get. Look at the enormously expensive equipment they use now only to keep up production.”

I agree with the part about petroleum supplies being finite by definition, and that is all I said. I disagree with Laherrere's opinion that we are advancing towards peak oil. We keep finding new source of energy, and there is a lot of evidence that the earth itself is creating more hydrocarbons. So, where is the straw man, man? I thought this was a place to discuss the article.

61 posted on 04/26/2013 12:53:23 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Defiant

You should really research logic. Straw man are only one type of logical fallacies.

Unless you understand logic, finding the truth is like a blind man stumbling around. Each person has his own set of biases, and to really learn something require being objecting.

Straw man arguments illustrate bias (they essentially put forward a supposition that nobody is arguing with that in reality are not germane to the question at hand)

Of course nobody believes there is a infinite supply of anything. What is at questoin is are we in “Peak Oil”.

Read the book “Deep hot biosphere” and get back to us. (you can get it on amazon for 9-10$).

Given our current increase in reserves vs our “burn rate” and the theory that there IS reformation deep in the earth, if our “burn rate” is < production rate, we could literally burn oil for BILLIONS of years.

Jimmy Carter in the first oil crisis (76) told us that we were at peak oil.....

How foolish is the public? Bad science allows them to manipulate the price....


62 posted on 04/26/2013 3:39:57 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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