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To: neverdem

This is still hooey. Arizona requires no permits for anything, and has no problems at all. And while training is a nice thing to get on your own, requiring it is just a waste of time.

Policemen with lots of training and many range hours often will still miss the broad side of a barn; whereas a cute little girl with a bow in her hair who has never held a gun before might be able to plant five rounds in a tight shot grouping at dog-tag elevation.

As far as felony convictions go, Arizona has some arcane rules about gun rights restoration for some felons, but it is not impossible. Most ex-cons probably know if they can, and want to, get their gun rights back. And if the police catch them with an illegal gun, they are in deep kimchi.


8 posted on 04/25/2013 11:16:01 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This is still hooey. Arizona requires no permits for anything, and has no problems at all.

This is using the incrementalism of the left to eventually restore rights that were lost. $500 could be challenged as an infringement.

And while training is a nice thing to get on your own, requiring it is just a waste of time.

Most people would be wise to get some instruction for safety's sake. The requirement "to provide proof of renewed educational training every five years," is most likely to ensure they haven't become a threat to themselves or others. People do lose their vision and their marbles. A lot of Alzheimer patients get very agitated in the latter stages of that dementia.

14 posted on 04/25/2013 11:55:03 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This is still hooey. Arizona requires no permits for anything, and has no problems at all. And while training is a nice thing to get on your own, requiring it is just a waste of time.

Policemen with lots of training and many range hours often will still miss the broad side of a barn; whereas a cute little girl with a bow in her hair who has never held a gun before might be able to plant five rounds in a tight shot grouping at dog-tag elevation.

As far as felony convictions go, Arizona has some arcane rules about gun rights restoration for some felons, but it is not impossible. Most ex-cons probably know if they can, and want to, get their gun rights back. And if the police catch them with an illegal gun, they are in deep kimchi.

Your comments are dead on and worth repeating.

The question that needs to be asked of the legislooters in each state, is "Are citizens of Arizona, Vermont, and Alaska more trustworthy than those of  ______ (insert your state here)"

25 posted on 04/25/2013 12:55:49 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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