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To: JCBreckenridge

“Controversial how? Everyone born in America is a citizen since the 14th Amendment.

If your goal is to strip citizenship from Americans based on their lack of a pedigree - that’s something that’s going to cut both ways.

What’s to stop Obama from stripping citizenship from others?”

Good Grief! Are you Grover Norquist...your thinking is just as suspect!

ONE MORE TIME!
“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.


6 posted on 04/24/2013 7:10:58 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Carry_Okie; HiJinx; Liz; Tennessee Nana; SierraWasp; DoughtyOne; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ...

Jackpot baby/14th amendment ping!

“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.


8 posted on 04/24/2013 7:19:44 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Are you claiming these children are children of ambassadors?

No?

Then I guess it would be unwise to strip them of their citizenship - which is based on the same exact thing as your own citizenship is based - being born in America.

Or are we now making it a requirement that there are additional hoops that need to be jumped for some people and not others? That violates equal protection.

In any case, I only hope you can see how your position serves Obama very well. If birth doesn’t make you a citizen - then the state can strip it from those it does not like, and award it to others who have no connection to America whatsoever.

I bet that would be something Obama would like very much indeed. So, go on - attack the very basis of your own citizenship and pile high the requirements. Just don’t be surprised when you find yourself *outside* the box.


9 posted on 04/24/2013 7:26:19 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: AuntB
“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction..."

The question I have is this: is a person who snuck in illegally under the jurisdiction of the United States or still under the jurisdiction of their homeland?

I would think that the only way to be under the jurisdiction of the United States is for the United States to affirmatively approve of the alien's being here, meaning they entered legally, they provided proper documentation, and they received an identification number from the United States.

Failing that, the children of illegal aliens who are born here would NOT be birthright citizens because they are not under the jurisdiction of the United States. How can they be if the United States doesn't even know of their existence?

-PJ

29 posted on 04/24/2013 4:32:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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