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To: JCBreckenridge
Actually, it’s you who refuses to accept what the constitution says. I’m arguing that we should follow the constitution, even when it says something that we don’t like.

Actually, it’s you who refuses to accept what the constitution says, because you had to redefine the term, "subject" to get away with interpreting it the way you do. That's rubber language, the essence of a "living Constitution." I’m arguing that we should follow the constitution IN ITS ORIGINAL MEANING, even when it says something that YOU don’t like.

Next time try reading the links you're given for a change. You might actually learn something.

45 posted on 04/24/2013 6:54:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Again, the original meaning of the Fourteenth was to provide civil liberties to all those born in the US. Some people want to go back to the old system where some Americans are not considered to be legal persons. (not them of course!)

What your push does is precisely this. It sets up two classes of Americans - one who are citizens and one who are not. This provides a powerful incentive for abuse and exploitation - if you have Americans who cannot vote to protect themselves then they need their betters to protect them.

We’ve been there. It’s a bad road. Let’s not repeat the mistakes of the past.


51 posted on 04/24/2013 7:12:18 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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