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1 posted on 04/24/2013 6:53:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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If the GOP is stupid enough to go for this, they deserve to go extinct, and they will.


2 posted on 04/24/2013 6:56:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The article also touches on “natural born” citizenship and Rubio’s eligibility, near the end.


3 posted on 04/24/2013 7:04:30 AM PDT by Sallyven
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It’s not mentioned because the two people writing this monstrosity LIKE the bastardization of the 14th amendment...and YOU?? Well, you’re just another ‘bitter ender’ racist if you don’t!

CESAR CONDA: “Birthright Citizenship and Abortion”
By Cesar Conda (Rubio’s chief of staff)
August 4, 2010

As a pro-immigration conservative (yes, I know, we could fit in a phone booth), I am opposed to Sen. Lindsey Graham’s (R., S.C.) proposal to end birthright citizenship for babies who, through no fault of their own, are born in this country to illegal immigrants. Innocent children shouldn’t be held responsible for the sins of their parents.

In terms of why not amend the Constitution: The Fourteenth Amendment rejected the idea that someone could be a person but less than a person legally, as well as the idea that citizenship can be made dependent on race. It is of enormous symbolic importance. There is no data supporting the claim that significant numbers of women deliberately cross the border to give birth in the United States in order to take advantage of this provision.[AuntB: OMG, what a LIAR!]

Further, the Republican party would be committing political suicide if it were to endorse ending birthright citizenship, as it would cost the party Latino votes, which are crucial in Florida and in several Western states.[snip]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3007546/posts?page=56#53

GROVER NORQUIST:
Norquist Says Ending Birthright Citizenship Is a Tax

Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, who is most famous at the moment for waging a political war on government spending, said on Monday that ending automatic citizenship for babies born on U.S. soil would be a tax on having babies.

“This is a tax on every child being born,” he said during a telephone conference call hosted by the public-policy group National Foundation for American Policy. “It solves no problems and instead creates all sorts of problems and costs in terms of Americans.......“It’s frustrating, and it’s why people lash out and reach out for these non-solutions” like ending birthright citizenship, he said.[snip]

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/norquist-says-ending-birthright-citizenship-is-a-tax-20120305

BOTH of them are wrong, but they never cared about the law.

“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.


5 posted on 04/24/2013 7:08:43 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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844 pages to say “Let them all stay and bring their relatives too.”

If you really want to know how disingenuous this whole thing is why is the Senate not also including the 4.5 million folks who are legally standing in line to get citizenship? Not a peep about those people.


7 posted on 04/24/2013 7:13:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Funhy, back when I respect Rand Paul he was ‘interested’ in taking another look at the 14th Amendment in creating anchor babies. Well, we are well passed that now.


14 posted on 04/24/2013 8:35:38 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: SeekAndFind; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ..
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16 posted on 04/24/2013 9:06:11 AM PDT by HiJinx ("A country without borders is not a country." - TJ)
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Today liberals/illegals were whining and moaning on fb because they think the restriction about border being secure using interdiction numbers is unfair...according to them the Border Patrol can dink with those numbers and does all the time for political reasons so that number has no meaning. Those of us that want the border to be secured have been saying that for how long? Now it seems it is obvious to everyone. Supporters of amnesty say interdiction numbers and past interdiction numbers are “meaningless” imagine that.


18 posted on 04/24/2013 11:46:09 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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Not a single word in the 844-page "Border Security, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Modernization Act" introduced by Senator Marco Rubio and the "Gang of Eight" addresses the controversial practice of "birthright citizenship."

Don't these guys read Vattel?

After more than 250 years of benign neglect, doesn't Vattel deserve something better than abuse like this??

First, they twist and distort Vattel and so eviscerate the one and only true meaning of the Natural Born Citizen requirement that it now seems to mean nothing more than Birthright Citizenship.

Second, they now want to grant Birthright Citizenship to the most worthless protoplasm and defective DNA, all of which was conceived elsewhere but illegally imported and harvested here.

Is there anyone present in this country who could be unqualified to be president under these new rules?

67 posted on 04/24/2013 9:46:10 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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Elimination of Birthright citizenship to non-us citizens should be required as well as a real border wall. Both need to be done before anything else is discussed.


68 posted on 04/25/2013 6:45:37 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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[snip]Birthright Citizenship is the automatic granting of citizenship to children born within a nation’s borders or territories. The United States and Canada are the only developed nations in the world to still offer Birthright Citizenship to tourists and illegal aliens.

The following are among the nations repealing Birthright Citizenship in recent years:

* Australia (2007)
* New Zealand (2005)
* Ireland (2005)
* France (1993)
* India (1987)
* Malta (1989)
* UK (1983)
* Portugal (1981)
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/issues/birthright-citizenship/nations-granting-birthright-citizenship.html

PSSST!! They repealed it because it’s INSANITY!


100 posted on 04/25/2013 2:52:07 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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