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I know this article a few months old, but this was all the talk of my son's Air conditioning class this week. Seems there's quite a bit of controversy about it, and someone said that GM is putting out warnings about reusing old parts in the A/C under the dash.

There is also talk that American manufacturers are balking at using this product, but the EU is digging its heels in. That may be just talk, I don't know. We all know the EPA cares more about fish than folks, so my guess is there may be a few "unexpected" A/C fireballs in the future, for which the government will be, shocked, shocked.

Supposedly this is starting to be phased in now, jan 2013.

So we went looking and found these articles. Looks like the EPA is forcing a new refrigerant that may not be safe, and is ten times the cost of what is being used now. Here is a list of articles I found:

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/28/daimler-sounds-alarm-on-new-ac-refrigerant-may-be-flammable/

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/10/12/environmentally-friendly-refrigerant-may-pose-fire-hazard-in-cars/

http://www.emercedesbenz.com/autos/mercedes-benz/corporate-news/mercedes-benz-independent-study-finds-new-refrigerant-to-be-dangerous/

FYI.

1 posted on 04/23/2013 7:15:13 PM PDT by I still care

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Hmmm. They didn’t post as links. Sorry.

2 posted on 04/23/2013 7:15:39 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)

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Ball of fire?

Are we talking Ford Pintos...?

4 posted on 04/23/2013 7:17:32 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)

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There was that AUDI that caught fire up on Capitol Hill and killed the lady lobbyist ~ that involved AC fluid.

We might revisit that case in light of this discovery.

7 posted on 04/23/2013 7:19:51 PM PDT by muawiyah

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Just use Butane, it will do fine as a replacement and doesn’t cost as much. If you are going to burn anyway, why not?

9 posted on 04/23/2013 7:26:04 PM PDT by chuckles

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As I said before, there was a time when it was illegal to use certain refrigerants in mobile systems because of fire danger, now the EPA seems to be insisting that we use those dangerous gases. STUPID EPA!

10 posted on 04/23/2013 7:26:14 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)

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Refrigerant burning? Like burning ice? And I thought I had seen everything!

12 posted on 04/23/2013 7:28:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)

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The scientific name for this phenomenon is the “Jerry Lee Lewis Effect”

14 posted on 04/23/2013 7:46:45 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)

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Still have several cans of R12 though getting the oil is almost impossible.

16 posted on 04/23/2013 7:53:21 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)

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10 times the cost and probably requires 10 times the pressure.

19 posted on 04/23/2013 7:56:29 PM PDT by mowowie

As I recall you and I had similar opinions on the original refrigerant bans. You might find this interesting.

21 posted on 04/23/2013 7:58:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)

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