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1 posted on 04/23/2013 7:04:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; VinL; ex-snook; sport; INVAR; ejonesie22; PieterCasparzen; Colonel_Flagg; Washi; ...

This is what you call conservative Leadership!

Ted Cruz: No pathway to citizenship in any Immigration Reform bill!

This shows Rubio and Rand Paul to be the frauds they are in terms of Tea-Party and conservative principles!

This is a man not caving on the Important issue of the day!

This is how it is done!


2 posted on 04/23/2013 7:06:55 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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No need to pass a new immigration bill.

We know they'll only enforce the parts that result in more Democrat voters.

3 posted on 04/23/2013 7:07:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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Not sure where the paragraphs went; added them back in.

On Monday, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said that including a “path to citizenship” for illegal immigrants in any comprehensive immigration bill would jeopardize the likelihood of the legislation passing.

“I think if instead the bill includes elements that are deeply divisive—and I would note that I don’t think there is any issue in this entire debate that is more divisive than a path to citizenship for those who are here illegally—in my view, any bill that insists upon that jeopardizes the likelihood of passing any immigration reform bill,” Cruz said at the Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing, according to CNS News.

The conservative senator from Texas said Americans should “all be champions of legal immigrants making the system work” and celebrate legal immigrants. He said the bill should focus on improving legal immigration instead of giving a pathway to citizenship to illegal immigrants.

The Gang of Eight’s proposed immigration bill includes an eventual path to citizenship for the country’s current illegal immigrants. Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Jeff Flake (R-AZ) are Republicans that make up the Gang of Eight, along with Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Michael Bennet (D-CO), and Bob Menendez (D-NJ).

Cruz said he hoped the “reform legislation will not be held hostage to an issue that is deeply, deeply divisive, namely a pathway to citizenship.” He said it was his hope that Congress could pass a bipartisan bill addressing areas of common agreement like “securing the border, improving legal immigration, improving agricultural workers to ensure that we have workers who are here out of the shadows, able to work legally.”

“In my view, that’s how we get something done—we focus on areas of agreement, not on areas of disagreement, and


4 posted on 04/23/2013 7:08:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

NO IMMMIGATION BILL OF ANY KIND!


5 posted on 04/23/2013 7:08:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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Cruz is a breath of fresh air.

Of course without a path to citizenship there would be little reason for the democrats to get behind this abomination.

7 posted on 04/23/2013 7:13:42 PM PDT by skeeter
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I am waiting to see somebody INSIST that any bill that purports to bring illegal aliens “out of the shadows” MUST have a voter ID provision. I have no idea how Democrat states could be forced to comply, but something has to be done.


8 posted on 04/23/2013 7:17:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Cruz is great, let's help him hold on when the time comes.

This bill is such a joke, how depressing that 4 pubbies are standing for a bill that Chuck Schumer loves.

13 posted on 04/23/2013 7:27:44 PM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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It would be a GRAVE MISTAKE for a number of reasons to put any foreign national currently residing here without permission of the US government (aka: “illegal alien”), to have the right to vote, no matter sooner or later after he is given whatever legal status that Congress passes.

Did I also mention that these people SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO VOTE?


19 posted on 04/23/2013 7:41:29 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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I don’t think these criminal aliens should EVER be allowed to vote. PERIOD!

Never, ever any government benefits, either.


27 posted on 04/23/2013 8:02:25 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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Rand disappointed me for the last time...

I don’t care if Cruz isn’t eligible, neither is the current resident, Cruz 2016..... Until he disappointing me too,...


28 posted on 04/23/2013 8:07:29 PM PDT by GraceG
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Cruz and Sessions for pres. & VP! In either order.


29 posted on 04/23/2013 8:19:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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BTW, one way Cruz got the GOP nomination was by beating up on Dewhurst for being weak on illegal immigration:

http://www.ontheissues.org/international/Ted_Cruz_Immigration.htm

He swore that he was against amnesty during the campaign. His one fig leaf he’s holding up over that position now is wishing the bill didn’t also grant citizenship in one fell swoop.


44 posted on 04/24/2013 3:23:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Cut and paste from an earlier thread:

Those in this country without a “green card” are ineligible to apply for citizenship. Those here on a student visa, for example, cannot apply for citizenship. However, as soon as you grant permanent residency to someone, then they have a path to citizenship automatically.

Therefore a new immigration status needs to be created called “Permanent Guest Worker” and we can hand out those “Blue Cards” or whatever to the Illegals who are living here. Gives you the right to live in this country, come and go as you please, pay taxes, etc., but cannot apply for permanent residency (or by extnesion citizenship) unless they surrender their “blue card” and return to their own country to apply for permanent residency through the legal channels like everyone else. No changes to the permanent residency laws need to be made.

Brings the illegals “out of the shadows” (as if they’re currently hiding while applying for drivers licenses, welfare benefits, and in state tuition at universities) while not creating tens of millions of new Democratic voters. No changes to the citizenship laws need to be made because they are already geared to permanent residents. This new immigration status won’t be a permanent residency, but permanent guest worker.

Then after this program is established, we really crack down on arrest, detainment, and deportation of anyone without a valid visa (green card, the new “blue card,” or temporary work, tourist, or student visa.) That’s where you’d have to trust the POS who is POTUS. None of this would happen for several years, so we’d have to trust Hilda Beast Clintoon...


45 posted on 04/24/2013 3:40:23 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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Poison pill amendment: Any person having entered any of the United States illegally may not vote in national[1] elections if subsequently naturalized.

(Personally, I don’t think that having entered illegally they should EVER be naturalized, but we all know that the polital class want.)

Poison pill amendment 2: Any person naturalized by the above bill may not vote in national elections for a period of 20 years from the date of naturalization[2].

[1] States rights - let then decide state/local.
[2] This is Rush’s idea, NOT mine.


50 posted on 04/24/2013 6:41:14 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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