For those with long memories on this site the following quote should resonate:
,The damage Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and Bush staffers did in 2005-2006 has not been undone. They called many Republicans bigots and racists who were not, but who stood in the way of their comprehensive approach to immigration. That created a great deal of distrust and animosity on this issue. Instead of trying to understand the legitimate concerns of those who opposed their plan, they tarred and feathered them all.'
Back then a number of us marveled at how massive slam and flame attacks could be mounted here minutes after a posting critical of the (so far) unarmed invasion and those in the GOP who wished to enable this process. I think most who were interested figured out that a number of Freeper accounts were zombie identities used either by certain (read McNut and Lindsay McGrovel) so called GOP 'conservative' senate offices or some K Street lobbyist law firm. Also a number of supposedly legitimate Freepers were clones of these people and were sent electronic hit mail to post. Whether there was some financial arrangements here is impossible to know.
One commenter on this piece made hits the nail on the head about the opportunistic Rubio , who, I am convinced has been throughly co-opted financially and otherwise by the Roveite 'sell your mother for a deal in the Senate' Vichyites:
Marco Rubio is a big boy and knows what he is doing. He is trying to win the ''media primary'' for 2016 by playing up to the liberal media elite on a cause they are deeply committed to, amnesty for illegal aliens. By pandering to the liberal media elite on one of its major political causes, Rubio hopes to be annointed by them as ''the frontrunner'', ''electable'', and ''inevitable'' just like the big media annointed Romney and before him McCain. This is all an opportunistic gambit by a Senator who puts ambition ahead of principle, his country, or his party. Before he got involved in this snow job, Marco Rubio was my choice for nominee in 2016. I contributed to his Senate campaign. Now, I would not vote for him, no matter who the opposititon is. Rubio is completely and totally unaccaptable. As far as I am concerned, Rubio is the Senator from La Raza.
I really do think, that if there are indeed jobs Americans won’t do, not even the low skilled, the temporary, the high school/college students, etc. -
that employers should raise the wage offer until someone does want to do it. Also, improve working conditions, etc.
That is how the free market is supposed to work.
Yes, our lettuce may cost more. But, we will have tax paying Americans picking it, which saves lots of money on lots of things. Whether it all breaks out evenly, who can tell?
But this is how the free market works! Not by importing “slave labor,” an insulting term to those who have really been slaves, but still.
If we’d paid doctors $10/hr, we’d have no doctors. We have to pay what they are worth. Likewise your skilled contractors, your cops, whatever - we pay what the market will bear. We don’t import illegal immigrants to get them all for minimum wage.
People who do this can pay their own medical bills.
The unions will of course, demand and GET all sorts of outrageous wage increases for these ‘unskilled’ people.
My first job was in a steel factory and I was considered ‘unskilled’.
I didn't mind because I was not going to make that a career.
The union of course has made THOSE jobs a rarity for young people. Too bad... it's the natural place to start out so you can get enough money together for night school or college
No one is supposed to REMAIN unskilled their entire lives... or start and end their work career in ONE place.
The union demands and gets crazy wages for these people. Employers are squeezed too hard on this and either go out of business or cut their work force.
I have seen a lot of shameful things too, just go look at any Democrat stonghold slum.
If you gave me $100,000 and asked me to help ‘poor people’, and at the end of the year I told you I gave $30K to one family, and kept $70K for myself to ‘administer the program’ you would be FURIOUS.
But that is exactly what the government does with Welfare money.
I thought sure the author had finally been reading my emails until I got to this line:
“I think Senator Marco Rubio wants to do the right thing. I think he set before himself a good, but unpopular task. He should be commended for trying, at least”
Anyone who thinks Rubio is innocent in any of this, just isn’t paying attention! But at least he hit some of the right notes about Norquist, et al.
Who is Cesar Conda?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3007546/posts
Marco Rubio’s chief of staff is an associate of Grover Norquist and worked for George Soros.
Marco Rubio has an interesting staff. I read this last weekend:
History repeats itself, and this time, we are the NATIVES! Who is Cesar Conda? - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3007546/posts
Meet Cesar Conda, chief of staff, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., close associate and fellow amnesty pusher of Grover Norquist, who last week called all of us who want our borders secured, “Bitter enders”, He might as well have called us ‘Savages’.
Here is detailed some of the undermining of immigration law these two have accomplished over 3 decades, including working closely with Stephen Moore of the Cato Institute, Conda circulated a statement against Prop. 187 of California in the nineties. The race baiting they pulled on Alan Simpson when he tried to enforce the borders in the 90’s was nothing but disgusting.
Conda, an immigration lawyer, was Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief domestic policy adviser. After leaving there, Conda went to work for George Soros on the editorial advisory board of the Soros publication, The International Economy Magazine.
Even amnesty pushers on the left like Conda!
“Before he got involved in this snow job, Marco Rubio was my choice for nominee in 2016”
Me, too, robowombat, me, too, I had such high hopes for him, until I heard who his chief of staff is. Rubio was handpicked. A big player like Cesar Conda doesn’t go to work for a lowly state representative. Rubio went to work for Norquist and Conda and the big $$$ (microsoft, Koch bros, unions, foreign govt’s) they lobby for!
Get rid of food stamps, welfare, subsidized housing and all the other freebies that pay more than picking crops and I'll guarantee Americans will start working for whatever wage they can get. It worked in the '30s and it will work here again when we run out of other people's money.
I think we need a program that is easy to administer, easy to apply for, and easy to use for individuals to come and go as they please during seasons of work to do jobs Americans won’t do at the price point these immigrants would.
I think we need to encourage those citizens who don’t work to work and take those jobs.
Yes, many illegals love this country and only desire to live in a socialist America. They will work hard and vote hard to make their dream come true. When it does come true then they won’t have to work any more because the riches of America will be redistributed to them.
Millions want to come to America. Most try legally and fail. Yet we are considering those who came ILLEGALLY with citizenship?
Depart then all and there will be plenty of law abiding immigrants that will gladly take their place.
Thats not the same thing as saying Americans won't do it.
And when Marco Rubio is renominated for his seat in the next election cycle, Erick Erickson will support him because he has an “R”.
Immigration isn’t the only issue where Erickson is a squish. He can, and should, be indignant over the ridiculous campaign Rubio is running against conservatives, but when the chips are down Erickson will fold just like the rest of the GOP-E.
When I see (must read) I never do. fwiw
As far as I'm concerned, Rubio has shown how stupid he is with his immigration reform. Hispanics will not vote for him, because he's Cuban. Hispanics I work with hate Cubans because they see them getting a free immigration ride. I can't blame them. Cubans get one foot in America and they're home free. Oh sure, they'll string the boy along to get what they want then they'll vote for the democrat who'll give them the most free stuff.
People elected by and paid by us should be doing what's best for Americans. I'm tired of them talking about the poor illegal immigrant who has put down roots here. They didn't care how they were hurting Americans when they came here. All they cared about was themselves, and all they care about now is themselves. We Americans need to do what's best for ourselves. If I thought living in a Latin American third world cesspool would be good for me, I'd move to one. There are plenty to choose from.
And then you wait until your application is approved.
Why advocates of citizenship continue to advocate on behalf of lawbreakers is a curiosity. And they are never asked to explain themselves. Do they believe that there aren't enough lawbreaking Americans that we have to import a fresh new batch?
If the answer is "No" then think about why you are against more open borders. Are the problems you are trying to solve by tighter borders really caused by open borders or by something else?
Are the drug cartels caused by open borders?
Are career criminals wanting to come to the US because of open borders?
Do the lazy and the poor from around the world want to come to the US because of open borders?
If America were a nation which had strict property laws that were always enforced, a system of government rooted in self reliance and independence, and a moral people which understood that there are natural negative consequences to sin and vice would we need tighter borders?
First and foremost I believe we are a nation of laws, not men. So to me,amnesty is out of the question. Going forward though, I am against getting in the way of someone who wants to add to America from making that contribution.
The author is kidding himself. The only answer is Arizona’s plan:
“Attrition through enforcement” — passing strict laws designed to deter more illegal immigrants from coming to Arizona and to encourage those already here to leave.
well who decides what jobs at what pricepoint? I suggeest we import lawyers an pay them minimum wage and also politicians to replace the ones we have. What a self serving selfish attitude of the writer. Why should someone who picks crops be paid less than a lawyer? which is harder work? I know which one takes less conscience and honesty for the most part.
BTT!
Some people out there are finally seeing it!
How do we get Rush, Hannity, Levin, Beck to expose it?? Or are they part of it??
Please send them this article!
http://www.hannity.com/contact