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GOP Veep Nominee Paul Ryan Calls Rubio’s Plan "Productive"
National Review Online ^ | 21 April 2013 | Robert Costa

Posted on 04/22/2013 1:03:06 AM PDT by zeestephen

Paul Ryan says the Gang of Eight’s immigration-reform plan is “productive” and “getting us closer to a solution.” Ryan will give a speech on Monday in Chicago on immigration. Representative Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, a Democrat, will appear with him.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; allthesame; amnesty; amnestypimps; borderwars; cesarconda; illegals; immigration; paulryan; rino; rinos4amnesty; romney; romneyryan; ryan; soldoutgop; stopbeingused
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1 posted on 04/22/2013 1:03:06 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

What does Mitt Romney think?


2 posted on 04/22/2013 1:04:43 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: zeestephen

So goes the ballgame.


3 posted on 04/22/2013 1:04:58 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: zeestephen; Jim Robinson

~~~~Paul Ryan says the Gang of Eight’s immigration-reform plan is “productive” and “getting us closer to a solution.” Ryan will give a speech on Monday in Chicago on immigration. Representative Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, a Democrat, will appear with him.~~~~

Nothing more need be said.


4 posted on 04/22/2013 1:09:10 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: zeestephen

And another one bites the dust.


5 posted on 04/22/2013 1:09:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: F15Eagle

This kind of stuff is beyond facepalming at this point.


6 posted on 04/22/2013 1:10:05 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, to paraphrase what I said on another thread,

If and when, likely when, this end America BS passes, I want every person on this thread to remember the names of the people who defend Ryan, Paul and Rubio.

Then every time you see one of them bitch when another American gets killed, another child gets raped or all the other things illegals are famous for, I would like you all to join me and tell these people to STFU.


7 posted on 04/22/2013 1:10:29 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: zeestephen

So, Ryan is calling Chuckie Schumer’s plan “productive”.
Wow.


8 posted on 04/22/2013 1:13:19 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Norm Lenhart; musicman

Add in the ones that make excuses for Obama hiding his documentation


9 posted on 04/22/2013 1:16:50 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Norm Lenhart

What’s the matter with these stupid RINOS. The libs are not going to reward them for their betrayals. The illegal aliens certainly will not. Legalize all these millions of people and the floodgates will be thrown open. The Republicans will never win another election. Unemployment and deficits will soar until the nation is bankrupt.


10 posted on 04/22/2013 1:16:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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He was a weak VP candidate.


11 posted on 04/22/2013 1:17:15 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Olog-hai

When you see them teaming up with Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, a Democrat, you know that the end game is already planned.

They intend to wreck this country for the NAU, perhaps even (adjusts tinfoil) NWO.

They don’t care what we think; just lying long enough to stay in office.


12 posted on 04/22/2013 1:18:30 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Jim Robinson; Norm Lenhart

My guess the Establishment has made it clear that in order to play ball in 2016, the potential candidate must support amnesty now.


13 posted on 04/22/2013 1:19:16 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

THEY ARE F’ING LIBERALS!!!

That’s the bottom line. I have been screaming this for a couple years and people just keep making excuses for why they are not.

Anyone voting for Gun control is a F’ing LIBERAL

Anyone voting for Amnesty or abortion or homomarraige is a LIBERAL.

We have to stop this crap Jim. We ALL have to stop backing and excusing these bastards because Dems are worse. We have to stop the pendulum from swinging any further in our own ranks before we can stop the leftward shift in America overall.


14 posted on 04/22/2013 1:20:31 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Gene Eric

Rubio’s check apparently has already cleared — he must now sell it to try and make it happen.


15 posted on 04/22/2013 1:20:32 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Gene Eric

Which is why they must be abandoned and an outside force/party brought to bear. You cannot change the GOP From Top to janitor it is fild with mercenary aides/pols/workers/

It has to be doune from outside.


16 posted on 04/22/2013 1:25:08 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: F15Eagle

And every day I see freepers bashing “birther nonsense”.

They WANT this hell. No other explaination when Arpaio has the goods.


17 posted on 04/22/2013 1:27:23 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Side note. Apparently people bashing the Birther issue trust Obama better than Joe Arpaio.


18 posted on 04/22/2013 1:28:45 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Gene Eric
My guess the Establishment has made it clear that in order to play ball in 2016, the potential candidate must support amnesty now.

In that case, you don't need a crystal ball to say 2016 goes to the Democrats.
19 posted on 04/22/2013 1:32:19 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Gene Eric

True, too young.


20 posted on 04/22/2013 2:26:33 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: zeestephen

The GOP is suicidal.

Any thinking that by giving citizenship to 20 million illegals will get them one vote is the ramblings of a fool.


21 posted on 04/22/2013 2:44:41 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: zeestephen

AMNESTY TWO ISSUES NEVER TOUCHED

(1) When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

IF ACTIVE FR’s COME ACROSS ANY NEWS ITEMS ABOUT PROBLEMS AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE HAVING IN MEXICO PLEASE POST THEM

This is a question: Should Mexican citizens when in the US be given the same rights American citizens are given while in Mexico? This has yet to appear on any US legislator’s questionaire from either chamber....ASK YOUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS WHY IT HASN’T

(2) What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ? While the Godless Demo-Coms socialists encourage population control and abortion . Then complain the US is not reproducing enough citizens to replace its aging retiring workforce. But rely on (as the Romans did) on foreigners (barbarians) .to keep their welfare ponzie schemes supplied with tax money and keep the system working..

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .


22 posted on 04/22/2013 2:47:18 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause..Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: zeestephen

Ah more stupid from the Stupid Party.


23 posted on 04/22/2013 3:19:30 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: zeestephen

Toast.


24 posted on 04/22/2013 3:50:24 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: zeestephen

We ran a PAIR of RINOs—not just one.

Shall we continue to run “open primaries” where the Dhimmocrats pick the “winners”?


25 posted on 04/22/2013 4:01:22 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I want every person on this thread to remember the names of the people who defend Ryan, Paul and Rubio. Then every time you see one of them bitch when another American gets killed, another child gets raped or all the other things illegals are famous for, I would like you all to join me and tell these people to STFU.

That will change nothing at all. Taxpayers should STFO: shut the funds off. The govt doesn't care what you think, as long as you send money regularly.

26 posted on 04/22/2013 4:10:32 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: HomeAtLast

Sure it will. It will keep keep the Freeper liberals in the closet where they belong. That’s a start since they won’t be disrupting conservatives with their excuses and we might then actually make some progress.


27 posted on 04/22/2013 4:15:20 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: zeestephen

He just joined Rubio in the human sewer!!!


28 posted on 04/22/2013 4:16:54 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: zeestephen

Good timing, Ryan.

These dolts could stop listening to the completely out of touch leadership at the GOP and think for themselves.

Here’s what they might come up with: the immigration issue is now way against the dems and getting worse by the minute. Saying illegal amnesty is good is providing cover for the dems and it abandons constituents.

It’s beyond bad policy, it’s disqualifying.


29 posted on 04/22/2013 4:30:55 AM PDT by stanne
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To: zeestephen; Tennessee Nana; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; ...
RE :”Paul Ryan says the Gang of Eight’s immigration-reform plan is “productive” and “getting us closer to a solution.” Ryan will give a speech on Monday in Chicago on immigration. Representative Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, a Democrat, will appear with him”

This will be much like Rand Paul's speech to them,
Ryan wont talk about his (go-no-where) deficit reduction plans he uses to lure conservatives to his side because then they would boo him. He can save that for us.

Instead he will give another empty sweet talk speech about how hispanics are natural conservatives and how the GOP chased them away with mean talk.

Ryan's another one looking like he is thinking of running.

30 posted on 04/22/2013 4:34:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: zeestephen

Matthew 7

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A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
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Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

Live it, learn it and vote out the evil amongst us.

LLS


31 posted on 04/22/2013 4:37:08 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: sickoflibs

It is disgraceful. Where are the Conservative lawmakers who oppose amnesty for illegal aliens? They need to make their voices heard loudly and clearly, now, in order to stop this RINO avalanche to destroy our nation.


32 posted on 04/22/2013 4:43:07 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: zeestephen

Someone had an “overrated” public figures list a day or two ago. I forgot to put Rep. Ryan’s name on it!


33 posted on 04/22/2013 4:43:33 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Norm Lenhart

Oh, you mean like telling FReepers to stfu about supporting Mitt Romney. Before he won the nomination. Yes, that was helpful.


34 posted on 04/22/2013 4:45:26 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: HomeAtLast

All that Romney support kicked the door wide open to the GOP ‘moderation’ we see today.

LETS DO MORE OF THAT!!!!! /s

Should have been a lot more STFU to the Romneybots.


35 posted on 04/22/2013 4:49:04 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Piranha
RE :”It is disgraceful. Where are the Conservative lawmakers who oppose amnesty for illegal aliens? They need to make their voices heard loudly and clearly, now, in order to stop this RINO avalanche to destroy our nation.”

They are trying to pander to hispanics while convincing us how tough their amnesty bill will be on them, while making illegals US citizens.

36 posted on 04/22/2013 4:51:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

If that does it for you, fine. I don’t live in FR. I live in the USA and that’s what I’d like to change.


37 posted on 04/22/2013 4:52:56 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: HomeAtLast

Good. You are changing it into England by backing abortion/gay/anti gun pols like Romney. Be proud of your choices. They are proving to help your course along rapidly.


38 posted on 04/22/2013 4:55:27 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: sickoflibs

Has any Republican senator or representative spoken out against the illegal alien amnesty bill since the Chechen jihadi bombing in Boston?


39 posted on 04/22/2013 4:56:53 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Norm Lenhart

I never supported Romney and you have completely misunderstood my posts.


40 posted on 04/22/2013 4:58:14 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Norm Lenhart

Does the GOP not realize that a Tea Party backed 3rd party in the next election would cost them a hundred House seats? At some point enough will be enough and a 3rd party will emerge on the secure borders issue, even if it is just a temporary effort to punish the GOP. The GOP needs to be sent a message before 2016 or we’ll be looking at another loss to the Dems.


41 posted on 04/22/2013 4:59:44 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Piranha
RE :”Has any Republican senator or representative spoken out against the illegal alien amnesty bill since the Chechen jihadi bombing in Boston?”

I saw this here last week:

Marco Rubio, Steve King Square Off On Whether Boston Bombs Should Refocus Immigration Debate(Published April 16, 2013 Fox News Latino)

42 posted on 04/22/2013 5:01:00 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: littleharbour

You have to realize that they want to be a one party government. They are fine with being Dems. Thus you see them adopting so many dem positions to ease the rest of us into it.

Most have not figured that out yer or refuse to accept it. But reality is what it is.


43 posted on 04/22/2013 5:08:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: zeestephen

I cannot in good conscience support anyone who, through their actions or votes, encourages the surrender of our national security to the third-world governments who toss their miscreant citizens at us with happy abandon.

The only thing “broken” about our current immigration laws is that they are not enforced.


44 posted on 04/22/2013 5:21:22 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: F15Eagle

“When you see them teaming up with Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, a Democrat, you know that the end game is already planned.”

That’s a fact. Gutierrez of Illinois and Grijalva of Arizona are two of the biggest ethnic bigots in this country.


45 posted on 04/22/2013 5:23:13 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: zeestephen

We have precious few allies on this one. Nearly all are lining up to kiss La Raza’s ass and sell out the sovereignty of this once-great country.


46 posted on 04/22/2013 5:26:49 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: zeestephen

How do I hate thee, GOP? Let me count the ways...


47 posted on 04/22/2013 5:45:33 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: littleharbour

Does the GOP not realize that a Tea Party backed 3rd party in the next election would cost them a hundred House seats?


The beltway GOP have always wanted amnesty and calculated that now is the time. They think they can blackmail us over gun control I guess. They are badly miscalculating. Conservatives will just stay home in 2014. The beltway GOP has been pretty much an across the board surrender monkey FAIL: amnesty, homo marriage, surrender on obamacare and continuing resolution, etc., etc.

There just is NO reason to vote FOR these clowns. They just assume we will vote AGAINST the Dems. No thanks, I’m done.


48 posted on 04/22/2013 5:47:05 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: zeestephen

Paul Ryan was chosen as VEEP by Willard bercause Ryan agrees with liberal Willard on issues like this...

When Willard was gov of MASS he knowingly hired illegal aliens to do the grounds of the gov mansion and made sanctuary cities and ordered LEO to not arrest the unlicensed drunk illegal aliens they pulled over..

Later during the AMNESTY Bill wars he declared

“We cant send them all back”

and

“We must find a path to citizenship”

In 2008 Congressman Duncan Hunter called Willard and McCain “the Kennedy wing of the Republican Party”...

McCain and Ted Kennedy were pushing for AMNESTY in the Senate the year before..

Are there no men in Washington ???


49 posted on 04/22/2013 6:07:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: zeestephen

Except for my Kansas senators, and other state races, like governor, I will no longer vote republican even if it is a tea party person. I am now voting third party and who ever I want for POTUS. My state just happens to have some of the few good guys in congress. However, in my district I will be opposing the Rep.

As Reagan once said about democrats, “I didn’t leave the republican party, the republican party left me.”


50 posted on 04/22/2013 6:12:51 AM PDT by Mozilla
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