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Some California leaders want low-cost health care for undocumented immigrants
The Tribune ^ | April 19, 2013 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 04/20/2013 8:53:32 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

About a million of California's poorest undocumented immigrants would have access to basic low-cost health care under a plan being pushed at the Capitol.

President Barack Obama's federal health care overhaul excludes undocumented immigrants, but some California leaders want to fill that gap by offering a safety net of primary and preventive care that does not consider immigration status.

The county-run program would give undocumented immigrants – and legal residents who can't afford health insurance but don't qualify for Medi-Cal – the ongoing opportunity to see a doctor, get tested and receive treatment before minor health problems become severe.

Funding would come from an estimated $700 million in county savings tied to expansion of the Medi-Cal program.

(Excerpt) Read more at sanluisobispo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; calif; healthcare; immigration
Calif doing well enough these days to provide free healthcare to illegals ?
1 posted on 04/20/2013 8:53:32 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

They haven’t spent all their money yet. Need to spend a little more to get to zero, and then ask the federal gov’t to sponsor them from that point on.


2 posted on 04/20/2013 8:55:09 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: moonshinner_09

What the **** is “low cost healthcare”?


3 posted on 04/20/2013 8:55:58 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Amnesty Bill - 800 pages filled with 400 waivers and exemptions for illegal aliens.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Good for California!!! Lure all the illegal leeches from Texas and other states to California. Works for me!


4 posted on 04/20/2013 8:56:09 AM PDT by avacado
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5 posted on 04/20/2013 9:00:27 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Distributing health care will become another leftist/Obama mechanism for rewarding the politically correct and punishing conservatives, Christians and the right, just like the bailouts were used by this president.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 9:00:44 AM PDT by Spok
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To: moonshinner_09

The left wants to control your finances and it wants to it wants to control your access to health care. In reality, it wants to control every aspect of your life.... What could go wrong with that?


7 posted on 04/20/2013 9:06:08 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: moonshinner_09

They are not “undocumented immigrants.” They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Calling them “undocumented immigrants” is like calling shoplifting an “undocumented purchase.”


8 posted on 04/20/2013 9:07:59 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: moonshinner_09

People who think money grows on trees are running the government.

THAT is a huge problem.


9 posted on 04/20/2013 9:08:03 AM PDT by stanne
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To: moonshinner_09

“””””””””undocumented immigrants””””””””””

I see someone has jumped on the ‘Forward Thinking’ PC bandwagon.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 9:09:52 AM PDT by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Illegals already get ‘health care’ in California. Just walk into any emergency room and see who is there. They go for the sniffles. They use the ambulance services for free rides into town.


11 posted on 04/20/2013 9:10:36 AM PDT by sheana
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To: moonshinner_09

I live in California, I work, and I sure don’t have low-cost healthcare. I pay $600 a month not counting copays and deductibles. It’s a real burden, and I have to live a very frugal lifestyle to pay for it. I’ve never broken the law. Why the H** should illegals get low-cost health care? This stuff just makes my blood boil. Seems nothing is too good for illegals, and to hell with the law-abiding citizens who pay for it all.


12 posted on 04/20/2013 9:15:46 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: moonshinner_09

How do they plan to pay for it?


13 posted on 04/20/2013 9:17:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Wait a few weeks....there will be BLANKET AMNESTY for ALL the parasites who came to the USA for “Los Freebies”.


14 posted on 04/20/2013 9:18:27 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: pepsionice
They haven’t spent all their of Somebody Else's money yet. Need to spend a little more to get to zero,...

There, fixed it for you.

15 posted on 04/20/2013 9:20:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
What the **** is “low cost healthcare”?

You and I get to pay for their healthcare.

16 posted on 04/20/2013 9:23:39 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: moonshinner_09
The State of California will become Mexico in 5 years with demographics, crime , and failed policies. The state has run out of money for basic services (police, fire , prisons). They are 50% under funded for Calpers. The state government is going to get very hungry for more taxes and could even look at some of the current European strategies for wealth confiscation. I could foresee a net worth tax, increased state income tax and a state exit tax.
17 posted on 04/20/2013 9:26:00 AM PDT by pterional
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To: FlingWingFlyer

My understanding of low cost health care is: “Take two asprin and DON’T call me in the morning.” Adios amigo.


18 posted on 04/20/2013 9:27:22 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: GreenHornet
They are not “undocumented immigrants.” They are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Calling them “undocumented immigrants” is like calling shoplifting an “undocumented purchase.”

Well said, GreenHornet! Those who define the terms usually win the arguments.

19 posted on 04/20/2013 9:28:56 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: moonshinner_09

Funding would come from an estimated $700 million in county savings

Hilarious! County savings? When has any government had savings?


20 posted on 04/20/2013 9:34:47 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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Hi, other 49 states?

California is not in charge of the border — you are. And you’ve decided that anyone can walk over the border and live in California.

You’ve also decided that California is prohibited by law from deporting anyone.

You’ve also decided that any sick people who walk into the emergency room in California must be treated. For free.

Fine. California’s solution to keeping bankrupt overwhelmed ERs from shutting down, thereby doing incalculable damage to all residents, is to treat sick people who must by law be treated for free in a setting other than the ER.

You make the Federal rules, other 49 states. California has to live by them. It’s pretty arrogant — and ignorant — for you to second-guess how we save our ERs and trauma centers for our residents.

So mind your own business. We’ve got our hands full with the invasion/occupation you won’t do anything about.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 9:40:28 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: moonshinner_09

Stabilize and return to country of origin for further treatment.


22 posted on 04/20/2013 9:48:41 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Laws requiring treatment regardless of ability to pay are a big part of the problem here. People who send remittances back to their "home country" can afford their own medical payments.
23 posted on 04/20/2013 10:00:16 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: moonshinner_09
How much lower cost can you get than free, which is what the illegals get right now. Just go to any local emergency room and see them lined up.
24 posted on 04/20/2013 10:13:24 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: moonshinner_09

We used to shoot in cases of banditry.

Robbery is the unlawful taking of property through the means of the use of force or fear alone or in a combination of both. “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” George Washington. Government operates through the use of force and fear of the use of it in combination to control the populace, victims, which is what we have become.

When approached by a visibly armed robber who demands “Your money or your life!” and given the means and opportunity to resist, we do so. Being approached by a robber concealing a hand in a pocket simulating possession of a weapon, again we resist if able. The threat to life and limb alone justifies the resistance offered irregardless of the stated intent of the robber to be satisfied by the surrender of the property demanded. He might well change his mind and the old adage “Dead men tell no tales.” should be among the likely results of the interaction between us.

In my way of thinking an agent of government who approaches me with a demand for funds with his hand wrapped in a law which justifies his use of government force to take my property is no less an armed robber than one who threatens life and limb demanding property of value with a weapon. Both have the desire and the means to forceably take and use the ill gotten gain to use for their own purpose. To be frank I consider thieving politicians to be in the same class as the highwayman. Both are using force and/or fear of its use and both want the taking to use it as they please. A bent form of ‘taxation without representation’?

Am I advocating violent resistance to their banditry? No. Merely pointing out there is no difference between the two individuals commiting the act. One wears a suit with a mighty pen, the other the weapon, or simulation thereof, of his choice. The result is the same.

A point to ponder.


25 posted on 04/20/2013 10:44:05 AM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
What the **** is “low cost healthcare”?

I would assume low cost means cheaper than what we'll be forced to pay by Law.
But are they saying how the illegals will be forced to pay? Of course not.

The dirty here is that they will not dare say that there is no equal protection needed
under the law, because they are illegal, and therefore are not Americans, therefore
equality is mute and the Gov can do for them anything they want.
It's a skirt around the law to benefit illegal Voters. A payoff like welfare.

I don't believe there are enough voters in CA who are adult enough to vote against
the political correctness, and be called a racist. It's been drilled into their subconscious.

26 posted on 04/20/2013 10:46:35 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: moonshinner_09

I could have sworn they already get basic health care. That’s why hospitals and clinics were going broke the last decade or so.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 11:20:43 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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