Skip to comments.BREAKING: NBC Reporting that Suspect #2 has been Mirandized by the FBI
Posted on 04/19/2013 7:03:31 PM PDT by Perdogg
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This cannot be right—the US Attorney just minutes ago said that they were going to use the National Security exception to the requirement to the Miranda steps.
If true, somebody high up interfered VERY QUICKLY. I’m holding up believing this until I hear credible confirmation.
.....”No Miranda warning being given to suspect because government is invoking the public safety exception, DOJ official says’......
That was my understanding too...that they have reason to envoke the exception. The question is ..since he’s now apprehended is he still a threat to the public safety...so they’ll be splitting hairs on this.
Example questioning of robbery suspect:
Where did you throw the gun? Come on man, Some little kid is going to find that gun and get hurt.
I threw it in that dumpster over there.
Boom. Admissible as evidence, but you have to stop questioning there, until you Mirandize.
The Sun will rise in the East tomorrow morning.
Of course they did. This has to count as one of the most moronic threads ever on FR. What did you expect them to do, recite the Miller’s Tale from Chaucer?
so now this can become bozo’s nightmare and he and his regime can deal with it
One of the first things that happens at Parris Island (and probably San Diego, too) is that new arriving boots are given a class on the UCMJ so that they can’t plead ignorance of it when they screw up later.
Acually....There’s an exception for a terrorist
There is no reason NOT to mirandize.
In the first place, the guy has spent the last 10 years living in Boston. I recall seeing a passing reference to him watching CSI as I rolled down his old twitter postings. Telling him miranda rights is not telling him something he does not already know. That’s quite different than taking into custody some ignorant terrorist in Afghanistan. Telling that guy he doesn’t have to talk and can get a free lawyer if he wants could make a huge difference.
Secondly, Holder and Obama will NEVER authorize enhanced interrogation. So they aren’t really going to interrogate him anyway. If the guy decides to talk, it’s not going to be because he doesn’t know about his miranda rights.
So the reality is, in this situation we don’t gain anything by not mirandizing him, and not doing just gives an opening to his lawyer to try to explore whether not mirandizing was really justified under the exception.
agree totally, he become an American citizen and now he has rights and so bozo can deal with all the aftermath plus the left is against the death penalty so what will they push for
Please see my post #43 on this
“A senior Justice Department official told ABC News that federal law enforcement officials are invoking the public safety exception to the Miranda rights, so that Tsarnaev will be questioned immediately without having Miranda rights issued to him.
The federal government’s high value detainee interrogation group will be responsible for questioning him.
The Miranda exemption exists to protect the public safety from another attack, according to the official. “
Boston Bomb Suspect Captured Alive in Backyard Boat
No big deal. It only means that information they get can’t be used in court. The information about who his contacts are and who supported him and his brother is more important.
I;m not so sure it’s that important at this point...not with all the evidence they have....the guys going to at minimum get life....might even try to plead insanity and under the control of his older brother.
The larger issue is getting what information they can....because since he is now in custody he’s no longer a threat to public safety.
“Does Mirandized mean water boarded in Chechen?” There was a time ‘Mirandized’ referred to that state of euphoria reached having dated Carmen. (Sorry. The Devil made me do it.)
You haven't been paying attention. The Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan have been begging the U.S. to stop the escalated drone wars.
The President of Chechnya just begged the U.S. to not initiate a drone war there.
In Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, and Syria jihadis and their Imams are begging the U.S. to stop the drone wars.
If you don't know about it, it just means that you haven't been paying attention to the changes in the world over the past 8 years.
The U.S. finally found the jihadis' fear-button, and we are pressing said button daily.
Ain't no one in Chechnya gonna come *close* to bragging about these Boston jihadist murders from the bombings and shoot outs because THEY DON'T WANT TO GET THEIR A$$3$ BOMBED!
It turns out that all of that talk about jihadis "never fearing death" is just bluster. They didn't mean it.
Around the world they are begging the U.S. to stop the drone wars because they fear the instant death from above taking them out after a computer ID's them.
Things are different now.
...just maybe you noticed that no one took responsibility for the marathon bombing?!
Now you know why.
it isn't about him, it's about his implements (does he have explosives stored in a storage unit somewhere, etc.) and knowledge of any other activities he was involved in that may be continued on by other parties.
It is not the bomber who is now a threat to public safety, just like my example in post 43.
But the law says if it is a Public hazard and an act of terrorism, there is an exception.
so what’s up?
Well, that’s the classic use of the public safety exception. (Good work, by the way.)
Here, the guy already knows he doesn’t have to talk to police. It’s hard to find a college student in the country who doesn’t know that.
And a lot of robbers actually wouldn’t want a kid to find his gun and get hurt or hurt someone. A lot of them may be robbers, but are still human beings.
But THIS guy is a jihadi terrorist dirtbag. Asking him “where are the rest of the IEDs?” isn’t going to make him more likely to tell you by not mirandizing him. He WANTS innocent people to get blown up by them.
You make a great point! I sure hope you’re right.
I wish you the best of luck in trying to be rational and to inform uneducated posters.
My prayers are with you.ha.
“I was never a police officer or an attorney, but I did post on a computer in a Best western last night.”