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Democrats find much to like in immigration bill
Politico ^ | 19 April 2013 | CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN

Posted on 04/19/2013 2:42:32 PM PDT by Theoria

The Senate’s Gang of Eight delivered an immigration overhaul bill this week that was far more generous to their constituencies than Democrats and Hispanic activists expected.

The pre-bill marketing campaign — driven by leaks that seemed to come from Republican negotiators — focused on stringent new border-control measures and a long, difficult path to citizenship. The goal was to minimize conservative opposition by creating a first impression of the bill as a tough solution to the country’s illegal immigration problem.

But when Democrats got a look at the 844-page measure, they discovered that their negotiators extracted more concessions than they thought possible. Those include an expansive version of the DREAM Act and subtle but meaningful tradeoffs on all the major pieces of the system, from family reunification to legalization and border security.

The compromises raise a potential stumbling block for the bill as it starts what could be an arduous process through Congress. Conservatives could balk at signing on to something that has the stamp of approval from liberal lawmakers and progressive groups. And liberals may have a hard time accepting something that Republicans may argue is a clear-cut victory for them.

So far, negotiators seem to have quieted dissension on both sides. But that could change as lawmakers and activists give the bill a close look — and assess the reactions of the other side.

Democrats are reluctant to sound too positive, fearing that would scare away Republicans. Their official response to the bill has been muted, with one press release after another calling it a starting point that must be improved.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; borderwars; carteldeocho; gangof8; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; rubio; scam
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1 posted on 04/19/2013 2:42:32 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

...the 11 million will turn into 60 million within a year


2 posted on 04/19/2013 2:43:48 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Theoria
focused on stringent new border-control measures and a long, difficult path to citizenship.

If anyone actually believes this, then they're just plain stoopid. the lowest of low-grade morons.

3 posted on 04/19/2013 2:46:06 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: Theoria

800 pages. 400 waivers and exemptions. That averages out to be two waivers or expemptions per page. What a farce. America needs to stand up to the 8 faggot gangbangers and tell them what they can do with this fraud.


4 posted on 04/19/2013 2:46:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: Theoria

5 posted on 04/19/2013 2:47:16 PM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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To: Theoria

More third worlders like the Chechyn bombers! Of course, whites need not apply, from any nation, anywhere. Rubio is more loyal to his ethnicity than to his Constitution.


6 posted on 04/19/2013 2:50:11 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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7 posted on 04/19/2013 2:51:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DesertRhino

“In the video, obtained by EAGnews.org, Ayers also first blasts conservatives for portraying President Barack Obama as a “secret Muslim” and a “secret sociopath,” running around with “terrorists and Arabs.” He lamented the fact that many liberals felt like Obama was “winking” at them while he portrayed himself as a compromising moderate – but Obama ended up disappointing the far left, according to Ayers.

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8 posted on 04/19/2013 2:53:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Theoria

They want to destroy this country. They know the enormous negative implications of the bill for this country. They know that no matter what they do or promise, these illegals will not vote for GOP.


9 posted on 04/19/2013 2:56:37 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Theoria

And why would any rational person believe that the same government that does not enforce current immigration laws they don’t agree with will enforce new immigration laws they don’t agree with?


10 posted on 04/19/2013 2:57:05 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Doogle; Theoria; All
"The goal was to minimize conservative opposition by creating a first impression of the bill as a tough solution to the country’s illegal immigration problem. "

Translation: THEY LIE!

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11 posted on 04/19/2013 3:02:20 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Theoria

“Democrats find much to like in immigration bill”

Now I know its bad legislation.


12 posted on 04/19/2013 3:02:45 PM PDT by lowbridge
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There should be no consideration of any bill until we find out who decided to admit the young Muslims who killed and maimed Americans in Boston. Any bill must have a provision banning admission of young male Muslims from our shores—as tourists, as business visitors, as students and , ABOVE ALL, as permanent residents.


13 posted on 04/19/2013 3:06:40 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: AuntB

Unfortunately, my senators are Rubio and a RAT.


14 posted on 04/19/2013 3:11:30 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: Theoria

No shite. If that bill passes the entire country will be Californicated.


15 posted on 04/19/2013 3:13:33 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: clintonh8r

“Unfortunately, my senators are Rubio and a RAT.”

I see...TWO rats...

I think there’s only 2 men in the senate worth saving. Jeff Sessions and Jim Inhofe.


16 posted on 04/19/2013 3:15:13 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Theoria

Knock out job, there, Rubio!


17 posted on 04/19/2013 3:37:24 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Exactly. Lets not forget we’re talking about an administration that is suing the state of Arizona for enforcing federal immigration aws that they won’t .


18 posted on 04/19/2013 3:38:46 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Iron Munro

“And why would any rational person believe that the same government that does not enforce current immigration laws they don’t agree with will enforce new immigration laws they don’t agree with?”

Precisely. So far, the good people of South Carolina have been running negative ads against Linda Graham and have his approval rating down to 53%. That means he is vulnerable to a challenge in the primary.

IOW, the traitor may not make it out of primary. He’s so roundly hated in Greenville and Spartanburg in the upstate that he needs to travel with a platoon of fat, waddling doughnut munchers from fascist DC to protect his traitorous ass.


19 posted on 04/19/2013 4:05:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Iron Munro

20 posted on 04/19/2013 5:13:23 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Theoria

TWO QUESTIONS ON AMNESTY DEMO-COMS WON’T ANSWER

(1) When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

This is a question: Should Mexican citizens when in the US be given the same rights American citizens are given while in Mexico? This has yet to appear on any US legislator’s questionaire from either chamber....ASK YOUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS WHY IT HASN’T

(2) What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ? While the Godless Demo-Coms socialists encourage population control and abortion . Then complain the US is not reproducing enough citizens to replace its aging retiring workforce. But rely on (as the Romans did) on foreighners .to keep their welfare ponzie schemes supplied with tax money to keep the system working..

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .


21 posted on 04/19/2013 5:13:57 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause..Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: AuntB
Became an American Citizen on Sept. 11, 2012.

Well - Democrats were hoping the evil-doers would turn out to be white Americans.


22 posted on 04/19/2013 5:29:17 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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