To: SoConPubbie
Because of Paul’s libertarian ideology I’m not surprised that he has become a key proponent of amnesty.
However, I don’t support E-Verify either. The idea of a government database with everyone in it alone should appall any lover of liberty. Add to that the fact that every American will be forced to get permission from the bureaucrats in charge of said database to earn their daily bread and you have something that resembles the Soviet Union more than the United States of America.
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
— Benjamin Franklin
9 posted on
04/19/2013 2:17:28 PM PDT by
EternalVigilance
(If the oath-breaking politicians won't fear God, we can at least make them fear We the People.)
To: EternalVigilance
>> However, I dont support E-Verify either. The idea of a government database with everyone in it alone should appall any lover of liberty. <<
The database already exists. The only thing E-Verify does is identify when someone is using stolen identity.
>> Add to that the fact that every American will be forced to get permission from the bureaucrats in charge of said database to earn their daily bread and you have something that resembles the Soviet Union more than the United States of America. <<
E-Verify does nothing that the IRS and the I-9 form don’t already do in this regard.
10 posted on
04/19/2013 2:23:00 PM PDT by
dangus
(Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
To: EternalVigilance
However, I dont support E-Verify either. The idea of a government database with everyone in it alone should appall any lover of liberty. Add to that the fact that every American will be forced to get permission from the bureaucrats in charge of said database to earn their daily bread and you have something that resembles the Soviet Union more than the United States of America.
EV,
I agree, that in a perfect world, your position is correct and logical. However, we do not live in a perfect world.
Even the founders, when it came to slavery, knew it was wrong, but knew they could not resolve the issue initially, but that it would have to be left to future generations to be solved.
There is only two ways the problem of Illegal Aliens can be solved:
1. Remove them forcibly like Operation Wetback and this will never happen because there is not enough political willpower to get it done.
2. Setup an environment where illegals can't work and they can't get social services. This is where e-Verify comes in unless you know of some other method of identifying them.
Furthermore, if we take your idea to it's logical conclusion we would need to get rid of all Driver's Licenses and Social Security.
Neither of those is going to happen either, though I would really like to end SS and I really don't care to have a Driver's License.
28 posted on
04/19/2013 5:21:00 PM PDT by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: EternalVigilance
However, I dont support E-Verify either. The idea of a government database with everyone in it alone should appall any lover of liberty. You are kidding right? Ever heard of Social Security numbers, ObamaCare, or driving licenses, or gun permits, or background checks?
38 posted on
04/19/2013 6:19:42 PM PDT by
itsahoot
(It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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