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Powerful Explosion Rocks Small Town North of Waco
WFAA ^ | Wednesday, April 17, 2013

Posted on 04/17/2013 6:51:57 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: Cvengr

If so, I’m glad I’ll miss the next cycle! ;-)


351 posted on 04/18/2013 7:47:20 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: concerned about politics

They are treating it as a criminal investigation ‘out of caution’.


352 posted on 04/18/2013 7:50:58 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: West Texas Chuck

Is this near you? Are you and your family ok?


353 posted on 04/18/2013 7:59:14 AM PDT by vis a vis
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To: West Texas Chuck

Is this near you? Are you and your family ok? Please check in


354 posted on 04/18/2013 8:01:58 AM PDT by vis a vis
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To: Jedidah

I did not mean to be snarky and I am very grieved for this town that represents the best of America (I love Texas). However, I can’t help but wonder how much cheaper it would have been to move such a plant further away from occupied dwellings and a school just in case something horrible like this occurred.

History shows that life is not without risk, but looking at a first responders guide to hazmat incidents shows that these homes and structures were built well within the critical danger radius for much smaller amounts of the material that was present in bulk at this facility.

Risk mitigation dictates you don’t place a nursing home within 500 feet (apparently) of such a place. If we agree to disagree that is okay. Regardless, my prayers are with the people of West and those affected by this tragedy.

We had an even larger facility/chemical plant in the city where I was a first-responder and the potential for a massive disaster with hundreds or thousands of casualties was very real. An effort was made to help the company move out of the city and it was declined for financial and political reasons - seeing what happened there is very sobering. Relocating a plant like this would have been a few pennies on the dollar to what this will cost and it would have limited injuries and property damage.


355 posted on 04/18/2013 8:02:38 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: envisio

Most likely, that is exactly what I mean.

If it goes otherwise I’ll be VERY disappointed.

When we had the fires in Montgomery County, Texas in 2011 people who were burned out had new homes, clothing, furniture, household goods and stocked pantries within two days. All done by the local people and churches. It was amazing. No questions asked and no drama.


356 posted on 04/18/2013 8:11:36 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: vis a vis

Kind of you to ask, but no, I am from West Texas, not West, Texas ;)

That town is about an hour south of us here in Dallas and I have driven through there many times. Sounds like the situation there is very bad, but under control. I don’t think they even know how many people were killed. The Waco PD is running the media stuff because all the West cops and city people are running around trying to locate survivors, if they themselves have not been harmed.

I hope this turns out better than it sounds like right now.


357 posted on 04/18/2013 8:12:26 AM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: vis a vis

Kind of you to ask, but no, I am from West Texas, not West, Texas ;)

That town is about an hour south of us here in Dallas and I have driven through there many times. Sounds like the situation there is very bad, but under control. I don’t think they even know how many people were killed. The Waco PD is running the media stuff because all the West cops and city people are running around trying to locate survivors, if they themselves have not been harmed.

I hope this turns out better than it sounds like right now.


358 posted on 04/18/2013 8:15:35 AM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: volunbeer

Please don’t misunderstand me — I agree with you wholeheartedly. That plant, and others like it, is a dangerous place to work and to leave near.

We have a lot of those in Texas, both chemical and petro.

I think the point I was making, and not very well, is that common-sense dictates that people not live near such facilities. But freedom allows them to do dumb things.

The plant, which is on the outskirts of town, had been there for a long time and predated the neighborhood that had grown nearby. Common sense should have prevailed.


359 posted on 04/18/2013 8:19:26 AM PDT by Jedidah
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They had permit problems in their past:
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360 posted on 04/18/2013 8:32:16 AM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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For anyone interested in helping the animals affected by this disaster:

The La Vega Veterinary Clinic has received four animals so far, is expecting at least two more, and they will be in need of donations. People are not being allowed back in to the evacuation zone, so the true extent of animal needs are unknown at this point.

MONEY is always the best thing to donate during disaster response, so that the people on the ground can buy exactly what they need at any moment as the response needs change. Please send checks directly to:

La Vega Veterinary Clinic
555 East Loop 340
Bellmead, Texas 76705


361 posted on 04/18/2013 8:48:37 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Yes, there is enough compassion in the world to care about humans AND animals at the same time.)
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To: BagCamAddict

Thank-you.


362 posted on 04/18/2013 9:07:32 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: F15Eagle

I feel safe saying this was not terrorism, this was an accident plain and simple. The facility was already on fire before it exploded and the local authorities knew it was going to explode shortly before it did which is why they were busy evacuating the area.

They just didn’t know it would explode so quickly, and couldn’t notify enough people with enough time. The heros were probably the firefighters who stayed behind in the area trying to fight to fire. They no doubt bought (with their lives) many people time to evacuate to a safer distance.


363 posted on 04/18/2013 10:07:54 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: BagCamAddict

04/18/2013 ———————AirPermits IMS - PROJECT RECORD -———————————————————————————

Customer Name: WEST FERTILIZER CO
Legal Name: West Fertilizer Co
CN Number : CN603095266
Region: WACO Account: MB0145S Central Registry Id: RN100985407
County Name: MCLENNAN City: WEST
Location : 1471 JERRY MACHEK DR WEST TX 76691
PROJECT INFORMATION

Project Administrative Name: ANHYDROUS AMMONIA FERTILIZER PLANT
Project Technical Name: ANHYDROUS AMMONIA STORAGE FACILITY

Project Number: 124559 Permit Number: 79803
Project Received Date: 09/01/2006 Renewal Date: 12/12/2016 Issued Date: 12/12/2006

Project Type: INITIAL Permit Type: CONSTRUCTION
Project Status: COMPLETE
Assigned Staff:
REVIEWER1: BOWERS , JOHNNY REVIEWER2: HICKMAN , SHARON
REVIEW ENG: MARTIN , JONATHAN
Staff Group:
AP INITIAL REVIEW
FEE

Reference Fee Receipt Number Amount Fee Receipt Date Fee Payment Type
3042, 3100 R700697 900.00 09/11/2006
TRACKING ELEMENTS

TE Name Start Date Complete Date
FINAL PACKAGE TO SECTION MANAGER FOR REVIEW (DATE) 12/08/2006
POSTED TO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR’S AGENDA (DATE) 11/28/2006
FINAL PACKAGE REWORK CYCLE 11/21/2006 11/28/2006
FINAL PACKAGE TO TEAM LEADER OR SUPERVISOR FOR REVIEW (DATE) 11/20/2006
WORKING DRAFT PERMIT REVIEW CYCLE 11/01/2006 11/10/2006
EMISSIONS MODELING CYCLE DONE BY TCEQ 11/01/2006 11/01/2006
DEFICIENCY CYCLE 10/04/2006 11/01/2006
PROJECT RECEIVED BY ENGINEER (DATE) 09/28/2006
PUBLIC NOTICE COMMENT PERIOD (NSR 1ST NOTICE) 09/28/2006 10/28/2006
APIRT TRANSFERRED PROJECT TO TECHNICAL STAFF (DATE) 09/21/2006
LEGISLATORS NOTIFIED OF APPLICATION RECEIVED (DATE) 09/21/2006
LEGISLATORS NOTIFIED OF APPLICATION RECEIVED (DATE) 09/21/2006
PROJECT DECLARED ADMIN COMPLETE (DATE) 09/21/2006
PUBLIC NOTICE DRAFT SENT TO COMPANY (DATE) 09/20/2006
SITE REVIEW RFC SENT TO REGION (DATE) 09/19/2006
SITE REVIEW RFC SENT TO REGION (DATE) 09/19/2006
ADMIN DEFICIENCY CYCLE 09/15/2006 09/20/2006
APIRT RECEIVED PROJECT (DATE) 09/01/2006

http://www2.tceq.texas.gov/airperm/index.cfm?fuseaction=airpermits.project_report&proj_id=124559&addn_num_txt=79803


364 posted on 04/18/2013 10:11:10 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

04/18/2013 ———————AirPermits IMS - PROJECT RECORD -———————————————————————————

Customer Name: ADAIR GRAIN INC
Legal Name: Adair Grain, Inc.
CN Number : CN603129412
Region: WACO Account: MB0145S Central Registry Id: RN100985407
County Name: MCLENNAN City: WEST
Location : 1471 JERRY MACHEK DR WEST TX 76691
PROJECT INFORMATION

Project Administrative Name: BULK DRY FERTILIZER PLANT
Project Technical Name: DRY FERTILIZER PLANT

Project Number: 125836 Permit Number: 80404
Project Received Date: 11/14/2006 Renewal Date: 03/15/2017 Issued Date: 03/15/2007

Project Type: INITIAL Permit Type: CONSTRUCTION
Project Status: COMPLETE
Assigned Staff:
REVIEW ENG: MELGAARD , FAITH REVIEWER2: OYLER , TONI
Staff Group:
AP INITIAL REVIEW
FEE

Reference Fee Receipt Number Amount Fee Receipt Date Fee Payment Type
3236 R717127 900.00 11/20/2006
TRACKING ELEMENTS

TE Name Start Date Complete Date
FINAL PACKAGE TO SECTION MANAGER FOR REVIEW (DATE) 03/12/2007
POSTED TO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR’S AGENDA (DATE) 03/08/2007
FINAL PACKAGE TO TEAM LEADER OR SUPERVISOR FOR REVIEW (DATE) 03/08/2007
WORKING DRAFT PERMIT REVIEW CYCLE 02/27/2007 03/02/2007
PROJECT RECEIVED BY ENGINEER (DATE) 02/23/2007
PUBLIC NOTICE COMMENT PERIOD (NSR 1ST NOTICE) 02/08/2007 03/09/2007
APIRT TRANSFERRED PROJECT TO TECHNICAL STAFF (DATE) 01/10/2007
LEGISLATORS NOTIFIED OF APPLICATION RECEIVED (DATE) 01/10/2007
LEGISLATORS NOTIFIED OF APPLICATION RECEIVED (DATE) 01/10/2007
PROJECT DECLARED ADMIN COMPLETE (DATE) 01/10/2007
SITE REVIEW RFC SENT TO REGION (DATE) 01/09/2007
SITE REVIEW RFC SENT TO REGION (DATE) 01/09/2007
PUBLIC NOTICE DRAFT SENT TO COMPANY (DATE) 01/09/2007
ADMIN DEFICIENCY CYCLE 12/13/2006 01/09/2007
PHONE CONFERENCE (DATE) 12/13/2006
APIRT RECEIVED PROJECT (DATE) 11/14/2006


365 posted on 04/18/2013 10:11:56 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

CBS Needs to get a new expert. KAKU embarrasses himself here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57580193/west-texas-explosion-explaining-the-physics-behind-blast/


366 posted on 04/18/2013 10:28:26 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Monorprise

It’s a terrible tragedy


367 posted on 04/18/2013 10:38:52 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: All

Live Updates From ABC’s blog via Bad Blue Director:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/04/live-updates-west-texas-fertilizer-plant-explosion-injures-more-than-100/#.UW-KbaxCSZk.twitter

1:31 p.m. ET: The National Response Team of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, along with ATF special agents from the Houston Field Division, has been activated to join the investigation of the West Fertilizer Plant fire.

“This has been a week of loss and tragedy for the nation,” Acting Special Agent in Charge of ATF Houston Field Division Crisanto Perez said today. “ATF is committed to working alongside state and local law enforcement by bringing its expertise to determine the origin and cause of this horrific incident. ATF will provide whatever resources necessary to thoroughly investigate and provide answers.”

1:00 p.m. ET: Speaking at a press conference, Texas Gov. Rick Perry told reporters that the air, as well as the pipelines in the area, are being constantly monitored, and that gas distribution to homes has been disconnected. Gas connections will be double and triple checked before service is restored, Perry said.

“Last night was truly a nightmare scenario for that community,” Perry said. “West is a really small community. And just a few thousand people. Anyone who grew up in a small town like West, they know that this tragedy has most likely hit every family, and has touched practically everyone in that town. I ask all Texans and Americans to join me and [his wife] Anita in keeping them in our prayers.”

11:40 a.m. ET: Speaking to reporters, Waco police spokesman Sgt. William Patrick Swanton said that more than 160 people have been injured, possibly more.

“I’d imagine that’s increased at this point,” he said.

Swanton also clarified that earlier reports of looting in the area were overestimated, and that there was only one instance of a looter.

“I have confirmed at least there was an incident last night when they thought they may have had a looter,” he said. “It was an isolated incident.”

Destruction in the area had varied, Swanton said.

“It ranges from broken windows to complete devastation. There are homes that are no longer homes … walls were ripped off, roofs were peeled back.”

Swanton told reporters that the cool weather in the area has been helpful, but officials want to rescue survivors before rain increases.

“As the hours go by with the temp getting cooler, with rain here, we certainly want to find folks, if they’re in the environment, injured. Numerous search teams are searching as rapidly as they can to save these people,” he said.


368 posted on 04/18/2013 11:24:55 AM PDT by Mozilla
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Another Site with Live Updates and information:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/18/texas-explosion-fertiliser-plant-live

2.30pm ET
On the scene

More from The Guardian’s Tom Dart, who has been speaking with people in West, Texas throughout the day.

Standing outside The Village Shoppe, broom in hand, Joyce Beaubien said that she is concerned for a friend and former neighbour who works at the plant. “I haven’t been able to get in touch with her,” she said.

“People here are really shocked. The firefighters are all volunteers, they all live here, their families are here, it’s just so devastating to people who’ve lived here all their lives.”

“It’s really devastating for a little town like this where nothing ever happens – except sometimes a person might get a little drunk.”

The retired medical secretary, who now works part-time in the store, said that new housing as the town expanded in the past two decades meant the plant was no longer isolated as it used to be.

“The fertilizer plant was out in the country and they just built around it when I guess they shouldn’t have,” she said.

Norma Talbott arrived at the store with her mother-in-law, Vi, who was in her house only a short walk from the plant when the disaster struck.

Norma said she had driven from Plano, near Dallas, to look after the 83-year-old, who suffered a cut and bruising.

“She has no doors, no windows, no ceiling. We have not been allowed back in and I don’t know when we will be,” Norma said. “Her neighbour got her out... She has the clothes on her back and her wallet.”

2.18pm ET

University of Alabama at Birmingham’s spam-monitoring lab said that spammers are taking advantage of the Texas explosion to infect computers with malware.

Spammers are sending emails with subject lines including: “Fertilizer Plant Explosion Near Waco, Texas” and “CAUGHT ON CAMERA: Fertilizer Plant Explosion Near Waco, Texas.” If someone clicks the link inside the email, malware can infect their computer.

Gary Warner, a cyber researcher at the lab, said in a blog post that the spammers used a similar tactic earlier this week with emails purporting to be about the Boston Marathon explosions.

2.06pm ET
On the scene

More from The Guardian’s Tom Dart, who is reporting from West, Texas.

Broken glass lines the sidewalk on Oak St, West’s main drag, less than two miles from the blast.

Maria Galvan runs a thrift store two doors down from Czech Point Collectibles and Antiques. Her shop’s windows were blown out and are now boarded up.

She arrived for work this morning to discover glass littering the floor and all of the ceiling’s panels on the ground, she said.

“It was all busted in, glass everywhere,” she said. “Very very bad... I’d fixed up my window for Mother’s Day, it’s all messed up.”

Galvan said that she was shopping at a Walmart in a nearby town at the time of the explosion and saw goods tumble off the shelves.

“We thought it was lightning that hit. People were running every which way,” she said.

Sarah Gardner, whose grandparents own an apartment complex near the plant, said that she “thinks everyone got out.”

She said that of 22 units housing families or individuals, up to 20 might have been occupied at the time of the explosion. Between half and 75% of residents were accounted for so far, she added.

The building, however, she fears is “a total loss”, little more now than a frame.

1.01pm ET
On the scene

The Guardian’s Tom Dart is has arrived on the scene and sends this rerport. He says the blocks surrounding the plant remain closed off, with police blocking traffic from passing. Main roads are busy with traffic, media trucks and American Red Cross incident support units mingling with a steady stream of pickup trucks.

Shivering from the cold as he stood outside the family’s restaurant, Nors Sausage and Burger House, Matt Nors reflected on his sister’s lucky escape.

“My sister was really close to it,” he said, adding that she lives within 500 yards of the blast. “I haven’t seen the house but supposedly it’s demolished,” he said.

Nors lives five miles from West. “The first thing that went into my mind was a nuclear bomb,” he said. “I was standing in my garage flipping meat on the grill. The shock wave felt like somebody hit me in the gut.”

Inside the restaurant, his father, Bernie, said that he knew four firefighters who had been killed. “They were fighting the fire when it blew up,” he said.

He lives four miles away, next to a field. “When it blew up you could see the shock wave hit the wheat field, boom,” he said.

Matt Nors said that West is “really close-knit. Real family-oriented. Something like this happens, there’s no shortage of help.”

He said that the potential danger of living so close to the plant was never a consideration in a rural community that depends on agriculture for jobs. “It’s never been a concern. This was never even a thought, an issue,” he said.


369 posted on 04/18/2013 11:43:51 AM PDT by Mozilla
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Some sites with photo slideshows:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/slideshow/west-texas-fertilizer-plant-explodes-18984514

http://www.foxnews.com/us/slideshow/2013/04/18/injuries-reported-after-blast-rips-through-texas-plant/#slide=1

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/in-pictures-texas-fertiliser-plant-explosion-8577868.html?action=gallery


370 posted on 04/18/2013 11:47:04 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: BagCamAddict

**** WEST TEXAS UPDATE - ANIMALS *****

We are reaching out to all that would like to assist with the West, TX emergency that occurred on Wednesday, April 17.

We have received information regarding the rescue efforts and emergency needs:

At this time, the entire area surrounding the devastating explosion has been closed,while investigators and rescue teams secure the scene and continue their investigations.

For everyone’s safety and to not impede on their difficult investigation, please DO NOT ATTEMPT to enter this area for any reason. For those that would like to assist or donate supplies for the animals involved in this horrific disaster, you may bring donations directly to any of our locations. For supplies received that are not needed directly to those involved in the West explosion and fires, rest assured, anything donated will be utilized to assist animals in need; i.e. families, animals in West or will be used here or shared with other groups. HSNT’s continued response to these situations are dependent on our continued support from a wonderful community of people like you.

HSNT is currently on standby to assist as needed,and as soon as we receive the ‘okay’ to dispatch our team with supplies, we will update everyone at that time.

We have also set up a temporary ‘hotline number’ for those with animal questions pertaining to West.

***HSNT WEST HOTLINE NUMBER***
GEORGIA MUNION
817-891-2264

*To Donate Supplies for Animals: (money, crates, food, blankets, medical)
1840 East Lancaster
Fort Worth, TX
(Please take all donations to our ‘bay area’ located on Grafton Street directly behind our dog adoptions area. There will be a staff member directly available to assist with your donation.)

Keller Welcome Home Adoption Center
(contact staff member, Nelda Corbell)
363 Keller Pkwy Suite A
Keller, Texas, 76248
Phone: 817-431-1170

Southwest Adoption Center
(contact staff member, Lisette Phelps)
6708 South Hulen
Fort Worth, TX 76133
817-423-3647

THANK YOU ALL for wanting to help out in this time of need for those affected in West, TX.


371 posted on 04/18/2013 11:50:24 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Yes, there is enough compassion in the world to care about humans AND animals at the same time.)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Thank God. I wasn’t sure and I thought someone should check on you.
Terrible, terrible situation. My heart and prayers go out to everyone in West Texas.


372 posted on 04/18/2013 2:30:07 PM PDT by vis a vis
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To: Windflier

If the fertilizer plant already blew up, why would you want to coax people out of their homes? The risk is past.

The most efficient emergency operations occur when they are using the regular economy.

If people are able to live in their homes, the last thing you want to do is to move them out.

Basic principle of Centralized command, decentralized control produces the most efficient and enduring social structures.


373 posted on 04/18/2013 6:25:33 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: volunbeer

A fertilizer mixing plant adjacent to an agricultural community is their probably because that is where the utilities are, the road networks converge, and a site which can handle commercial trucking. In rural agricultural communities, the towns form to provide commonly needed services and supplies to the agricultural industry in the area.

The rest home and apartments probably sprung up as amenities to the location of their work and requisite logistics, close to family members and their communities.

In most cases a furlong (660ft) to 1200 ft setback from nearly any occupancy in the codes is more than adequate to meet codes.

Multiple systems had to fail for the disaster to occur.

Note, that even with the siding and roofs peeled back, many of the structures are still standing.

They probably have far greater risk from tornadoes than explosions.


374 posted on 04/18/2013 6:35:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: kristinn

If anyone of us made stuff in our home that if things went wrong could kill neighbors a quarter mile away we’d spend the rest of our lives in prison as a terrorist.

Until greed or stupidity is eliminated we need regulations that will hold accountable those who own the business. I’ve always said that regulations would be unnecessary if owners and CEOs were forced to live next door to the business. The CEO should be in Guantonimo.


375 posted on 04/18/2013 7:03:18 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Banksters are coming for your retirement, pensions & property. But first they want your firearms)
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To: Cvengr
If the fertilizer plant already blew up, why would you want to coax people out of their homes? The risk is past.

Well, we did say, "coax". Not 'force'.

I think you may be assuming that officials are looking to get people out of their homes who haven't been injured, have no property damage, and who aren't traumatized in any way. I don't think that's the case.

Also, the comment is now close to 24 hours old. Things have changed quite a bit on the scene since then. I'm sure that initially, officials simply didn't know whether there'd be more explosions, and just wanted people to evacuate the area for their safety.

376 posted on 04/18/2013 7:12:08 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Thud

>>AFAIK, there is no “zoning” in Texas.<<

What exactly do you mean by this? No zoning as a direct result of state law, or no municipal zoning period? The latter is obviously not true.


377 posted on 04/18/2013 10:05:09 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Southack

Then I have been misinformed. I was informed that AN would only burn forcefully and not explode without additional additives. Thank you for the correction.


378 posted on 04/20/2013 2:40:53 PM PDT by thegrump
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