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The Toomey-Manchin Proposal Will Allow Doctors to Block Your Right to Guns
Red State ^ | 4/10/2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 04/11/2013 3:29:55 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

This is the beginning of the end of the 2nd amendment. What will be included in the background check; having a neighbor feud, a family member’s medication, arrests or convictions and for what, a comment on Free Republic, etc.? As we all knwo this new act could be mild and with amendments could get far worse. Any freedom loving pubbie ought to think long and hard before supporting this gun grabbing act.


41 posted on 04/11/2013 5:15:03 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: IbJensen

Between Section 2716 of the Obamacare Act, and an Executive Order by BO on January 16,2013, your medical privacy rights were eviscerated and doctors’ records concerning the mental health of gun owners were fair game. Toomey-Manchin just codifies the E.O. SHAME!! SHAME!! SHAME!! Call your senators!


42 posted on 04/11/2013 5:37:35 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

They actually want a national implanted ID chip....to be used for EVERY transaction EXCEPT voting and applying for government entitlements.


43 posted on 04/11/2013 5:39:22 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: hadaclueonce
Yes, since dropping the congressional like benefits to being a physician, no free trips, pizza, pens and post-its all dried up after it was outlawed back in the somethings? meaning now, you can probably tip your physician with a 20 dollar bill to keep your name off the list.

I got a free trip in the 90’s to a meeting and the DOD came in and showed us what small pox and anthrax looked like.

Sometimes the free trips are warranted.

Wish they would bring me back for a refresher.

Spending your third decade of life in the library has its privileges.

44 posted on 04/11/2013 5:53:25 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: browniexyz

Just say no.


45 posted on 04/11/2013 5:54:18 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: wita

It refers to, “doctors”. There are all kinds of doctors and don’t assume they are referring only to psychiatrists. Example: pediatric doctor asks five year old if mommy and daddy have a gun, child answers yes, in the closet. BLAM, child endangerment.


46 posted on 04/11/2013 6:01:22 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: IbJensen

I can envision a rapid stop to this practice when someone whose guns were stolen in this manner, but who has one hidden elsewhere decides to make sure that no one else is similarly victimized.

I am not advocating this, mind you, just speculating. Were I a doc I wouldn’t report anyone, and I would be very open and up front about it.


47 posted on 04/11/2013 6:02:45 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: IbJensen

And this takes us back to why doctors are asking patients if they have guns in the house.

Remember all the activist doctors who said they have a “right” to ask such a question? Would anyone be stupid enough now to give an affirmative answer?


48 posted on 04/11/2013 7:00:56 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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So what follows... Mandatory mental screening for all Americans?

I do believe that mandatory health screening for children was part of one of these gun bills.

49 posted on 04/11/2013 7:03:13 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: Ancesthntr

“Were I a doc I wouldn’t report anyone, and I would be very open and up front about it.”

As was my Doc when asked where the five pages of medical history, I was asked to fill out, came from. The answer Homeland Security, and please exercise your right not to fill them out.

Which is all well and good so long as treatment is not withheld for not having the history filled out. You can well imagine in short order that little quirk will be quickly rectified just as soon as all five pages are deemed important enough to change the opt in opt out choice, to “your papers please”. Oh, forget the please.


50 posted on 04/11/2013 8:03:37 AM PDT by wita
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To: IbJensen

And here’s the problem— who is defining “mental illness?” Yup-you’re mentally ill if you are conservative, a gun owner, etcetcetcetc!! Doctors will be threatened with liability if they don’t help get the guns out of the hands of their ill patients!


51 posted on 04/11/2013 11:25:17 AM PDT by browniexyz
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