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The Senate has scheduled a vote for Thursday and, according to the Washington Post, it looks like Democrats have the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster.
1 posted on 04/10/2013 1:28:56 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
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we have to realize “our guys” are not idiots, they are collaborators.


2 posted on 04/10/2013 1:31:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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The fix is in.


3 posted on 04/10/2013 1:32:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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conducted by federally licensed gun firearm dealers, who would need to verify the validity of a purchaser’s gun license

Some states don't require "gun licenses." Is this a subtle hint that states are going to be required to issue them?

4 posted on 04/10/2013 1:32:17 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: EXCH54FE

Here’s the kicker...

“...verify the validity of a purchaser’s gun license...”

Debate the Second Amendment? Just say NO!


5 posted on 04/10/2013 1:32:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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This bill is NOT posted on thhomas.loc.gov

I bet we don’t get to read it before the senate vote.

One concern is just how doctors can enter you in the “no guns” database and whether such a listing can be appealed.


6 posted on 04/10/2013 1:33:02 PM PDT by DBrow
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From Toomey’s website:

“The bill will not, in any way at all, infringe upon the Constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens.
Latest News”

Oh, except for the Due Process Clauses in the 5th and 14th Amendments


8 posted on 04/10/2013 1:36:08 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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RINO’s screwing America with great abandonment.


9 posted on 04/10/2013 1:37:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I emailed Toomey. Explained to him that he just lost a vote. He is NOT a Conservative and I refuse to vote for anyone that whittles away at the Constitution..


12 posted on 04/10/2013 1:40:46 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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...Manchin and Toomey explicitly states that the bill will not create a national registry ...

I have read that the atf gets around "national registry" now by keeping several regional registries. I do not know if that is true or not, but if they were keeping it concealed from JQ Public, we wouldn't know, now would we?

13 posted on 04/10/2013 1:42:26 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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verify the validity of a purchaser’s gun license

Gun license? Since when do we need a license to own a firearm?

15 posted on 04/10/2013 1:51:04 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (The Cardinals chose wisely.)
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“If transfers are done through a federally licensed firearms dealer there WILL be a form 4473 for every single transaction"...

This is already the case. Has been the case for a very long time.

17 posted on 04/10/2013 1:55:10 PM PDT by grobdriver
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Last I checked, aren’t you already required to send a firearm to an FFL if it’s purchased over the internet and you’re mailing it to someone?

Of course, this is hardly the first time big brother had its head up its @$$ when it comes to knowing a law is already on the bloody books.


18 posted on 04/10/2013 1:56:42 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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“Under the terms of the Manchin-Toomey deal all background checks would be conducted by federally licensed gun firearm dealers, who would need to verify the validity of a purchaser’s gun license and record that a check was performed.

"Purchaser's gun license???!!!???!!! WTF!

No one in Texas needs a license to purchase, only those in dark and fascist states like NJ, NY and IL.

Oh, and last I read the FFL's fee for doing the background check is to be determined by the Attorney General - who has no limit on what that fee may be. So if he makes the fee $1,000 or $10,000, that would effectively stop all transfers.

Phuk these guys and the horse they rode in on! I hope that several states pass laws specifically exempting guns made and sold within the state to be exempt from this "law" should the abomination pass. I also hope that the American People give the fed.gov the finger on this one, just like their great grandparents did on Prohibition and their parents on the issue of the 55 MPH limit and recreational drugs. This is NONE of the fed.gov's business.

I might ask when we can expect a similar background check for prayer books and newspapers. EVERYONE knows that ideas and the written word a far more powerful weapons than mere firearms.

22 posted on 04/10/2013 3:50:41 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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