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Sen. Toomey Betrays Gun Owners
GOA ^ | Apr. 10, 2013 | GOA Staff

Posted on 04/10/2013 10:32:33 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

Sellout is worse than the Feinstein gun ban!

Urgent action required. It is urgent that every gun owner call their Senators today and demand that they oppose the “See a Shrink, Lose your Guns” sell-out bill that is being authored by Senators Pat Toomey (R) and Joe Manchin (D) - but which also has Chuck Schumer’s fingerprints all over it.

See a Shrink, Lose your Guns. The anti-gun ”ranters” have spent the last week telling us that Republican Senators can’t filibuster Harry Reid’s gun control bill; that they can’t cut off debate to a bill they haven’t seen yet. “Let the bill come up,” they say. “We need to see the bill” before Senators can vote against cloture to proceed to it.

Well, we’ve seen the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer sell-out, and it’s worse than the Feinstein gun ban, which will reportedly be tied to it and offered simultaneously in a Senate procedure known as an “amendment tree.”

Toomey and Manchin will claim that their bill only covers “gun show sales” and Internet sales. But if you’ve ever talked about your gun and /or let it be known you’d like to sell or buy a gun on the Internet, this language covers you. If you advertise your gun in the church bulletin and the bulletin is put on the Internet, you’re covered.

The only exemption is for sales that are sold exclusively by word of mouth. The increased number of background checks would likely exacerbate the system breakdowns (inherent to NICS) which have shut down gun shows over and over again.

So if you live in a rural area, you’re effectively barred from selling or buying a gun - or it at least becomes very, very difficult.

(Excerpt) Read more at capwiz.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; betrayal; goa; guncontrol; secondamendment; toomey
Contact your two senators immediately. Tell them the “see a shrink; lose your guns” sellout is even worse than the Feinstein gun ban which will reportedly be on the same amendment tree with it. Distribute this alert far and wide.

Time is short, so if you call - at 202-224-3121 - you can use the contents of the pre-written letter to help direct your comments.

1 posted on 04/10/2013 10:32:33 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

This is going to discourage people who needs help from seeking help. Bad things is only going to come out of this.


2 posted on 04/10/2013 10:36:56 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: EXCH54FE

Sounds like Toomey is getting in touch with his “moderate” side again.


3 posted on 04/10/2013 10:42:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: EXCH54FE

It won’t take many of these “See a Shrink, Lose your Guns” cases (and there have already been some!) before decent people will be afraid to see a shrink when they might need help. Is that really the unintended consequence that the far left fringe wants to risk? I suspect it’s intentional, and they would be happy with more carnage, even if they caused it, if that allows them to grab more power. Liberals disgust me.


4 posted on 04/10/2013 10:44:30 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: Roger_Wildcat

I predict here and now that this will actually INCREASE the incidence of massacres since people who legitimately need counseling won’t seek help.


5 posted on 04/10/2013 10:51:16 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Sent!

Here’s the text of the email:

“The Toomey-Manchin sell-out is worse than the Feinstein gun ban, which will reportedly be tied to it on the same amendment tree.

Toomey and Manchin will claim that their bill only covers “gun show sales” and Internet sales. But if you’ve ever talked about your gun and /or let it be known you’d like to sell or buy a gun on the Internet, this language covers you. If you advertise your gun in the church bulletin and the bulletin is put on the Internet, you’re covered.

The only exemption is for sales that are sold exclusively by word of mouth. The increased number of background checks would likely exacerbate the system breakdowns (inherent to NICS) which have shut down gun shows over and over again. It would mean that Americans who were illegally denied firearms because their names were similar to other people’s would effectively be barred from owning a gun. (We would never tolerate such delays for voting rights or other freedoms that we are guaranteed.)

And for those Republicans who think they’re going to be able to offer their useless amendments, guess what? Reid is reportedly going to use an amendment tree to block out all amendments. And there are plenty of Senators standing in line to make sure that the Senate doesn’t give “unanimous consent” to set that blocking effort aside.

So if you live in a rural area, you’re effectively barred from selling or buying a gun - or it at least becomes very, very difficult.

Incidentally, the Toomey-Manchin “national registry” language is full of holes. There will be a national gun registry as a result of this sell-out.

But that’s not the worst part. Under an amendment in the bill to HIPAA, you could have your guns taken away because your private shrink thinks you’re “dangerous” and could send your name directly to the FBI Instant Check system.

Did you think it was terrible that 150,000 military veterans had been added into the NICS system because they’d seen a VA shrink about their PTSD? Well guess what? Now it’s going to happen to the rest of the population ... by the millions!

And the next step, of course, will be to begin to sue psychiatrists that don’t send every single patient’s name to the Instant Check system, and to make sure that their lives are ruined if they don’t send a patient to NICS and anything goes wrong.

The bottom line: “See a shrink; lose your guns.”

All of this will reportedly be on an amendment tree with the Feinstein gun ban and magazine bans.

In addition, Toomey no doubt unintentionally agreed to repeal one of the most important protections for gun owners that was included in the 1986 McClure-Volkmer Act - the provision that would allow you to take an unloaded, locked-up gun through states like New York without being stopped. Under a new subsection (c), the Toomey-Manchin bill would require you to “demonstrate” to the satisfaction of New York police where you were coming from and where you are going to. And, if you don’t do that to their satisfaction, they can arrest you.

Please understand that nothing in this bill would have stopped the Newtown dirtbag from killing his mother and taking the firearms that she owned and perpetrating the horrible crimes that he committed.

Nothing is this bill would actually make children safer at schools. There is nothing that will actually keep bad guys from stealing or illegally acquiring guns, but there’s plenty that will threaten our gun rights!

Please vote against cloture on the motion to proceed to the “see a shrink; lose your guns” / Feinstein gun ban amendment tree.”


6 posted on 04/10/2013 11:08:10 AM PDT by servo1969
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I don’t know if this is true, but someone told me that gun confiscation is very quietly going on in New York for this very reason.

Okay, found a news post about it:

http://www.wbzt.com/articles/national-news-104668/a-form-of-gun-confiscation-has-11171457/


7 posted on 04/10/2013 11:16:36 AM PDT by beaversmom
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Oops, forgot the title:

A Form of Gun Confiscation Has Reportedly Begun in New York State

http://www.wbzt.com/articles/national-news-104668/a-form-of-gun-confiscation-has-11171457/


8 posted on 04/10/2013 11:17:19 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: EXCH54FE
I gave Toomey's primary campaign money even though I don't live in his state to get rid of Sphincter.

Guess I am going to be giving money to HIS primary opponent.

9 posted on 04/10/2013 11:50:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: EXCH54FE

Not much of conservatism comes from PA pols-—Santorum was the exception and Toomey barely won his race. PA too close to NY and NJ. Ohio same thing lately too.


10 posted on 04/10/2013 12:04:11 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: EXCH54FE

I think the end result of all this will be the creation of new weapons, that can be easily manufactured at home, to take place of guns. Human ingenuity will always prevail.


11 posted on 04/10/2013 12:05:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: servo1969

Tyrant Kim Un Obama must be very pleased that his efforts have so easily “FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”


12 posted on 04/10/2013 12:15:36 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: ScottinVA

He’s taking a pounding on his Facebook page.


13 posted on 04/10/2013 12:18:04 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: ScottinVA

Toomey lied like a trooper at the presser earlier today.


14 posted on 04/10/2013 1:30:08 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: EXCH54FE
Sen. Toomey Betrays Gun Owners  The United States Constitution


If the gutless maggot will betray 2A, s/he'll spread 'em for all the rest too.

15 posted on 04/10/2013 1:32:42 PM PDT by tomkat (-liberty or death-)
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To: ScottinVA

I’m sure I sent him money for his election......bad choice...


16 posted on 04/10/2013 3:32:49 PM PDT by cherry
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