Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hobby Lobby granted full court hearing for mandate case
cna ^ | April 1, 2013 | Adelaide Darling

Posted on 04/02/2013 9:06:14 AM PDT by NYer

Hobby Lobby. Courtesy of the Becket Fund.

Washington D.C., Apr 1, 2013 / 05:02 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Christian-owned craft giant Hobby Lobby will be able to make its appeal against the federal contraception mandate before a full federal panel of nine judges, rather than the usual three.

“Full court review is reserved only for the most serious legal questions,” explained Kyle Duncan, general counsel for the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty in a press release on March 29. The Becket Fund is representing the owners of Hobby Lobby in court. 

Duncan said that the decision to grant a full nine-judge hearing speaks to the gravity of the issue.

“This case asks whether the First Amendment protects everyone’s right to religious freedom, or whether it leaves out religious business owners like the Greens,” he explained.

As its religious freedom case comes before a federal court, Hobby Lobby had petitioned for an “en banc” hearing, or an appeals hearing before the full bench of nine judges.

“We are grateful that the court granted Hobby Lobby’s petition,” said Duncan.

The arts and crafts retailer is one of well over 100 plaintiffs challenging a mandate issued by the Department of Health and Human Services to require employers to provide contraception, some abortion-inducing drugs and sterilizations.

A narrow religious exemption included in the mandate does not apply to for-profit businesses run by religious individuals.

Since its founding in an Oklahoma City garage in 1972, Hobby Lobby has grown to more than 500 stores in 40 states. Its founder and CEO, David Green, and his family describe themselves as committed Christians who strive to serve God through all their endeavors, including their business.

The Greens donate large amounts of money to charitable causes, maintain a minimum wage that is significantly higher than that required by federal law and close their stores on Sundays, sacrificing profit to allow their employees to worship and rest.

As Christians, the Greens also object to funding or facilitating any drugs that can cause abortions, including the “morning after” and “week after” pills. Their lawsuit argues that their First Amendment guarantees of religious freedom are being violated through the mandate’s demands.

Both a federal district court and an appeals court initially denied an injunction that would have blocked the mandate from going into effect while Hobby Lobby argued its case.

The courts said that although the Greens express their sincere religious beliefs through their company, they did not feel that those beliefs were directly burdened by the mandate’s requirements.

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor denied the company’s emergency injunction appeal in December, saying that the case did not meet the extreme standard necessary for the Supreme Court to intervene.

Without an injunction, Hobby Lobby was faced with up to $1.3 million per day in fines for violating the mandate, beginning Jan. 1 of this year.

In January, however, the retailer released a statement saying it had found a way delay the crippling fines by “shift(ing) the plan year for its employee health insurance, thus postponing the effective date of the mandate for several months.”

The company has said that despite the threat of staggering fines, it will continue fighting to exercise its owners’ religious beliefs in its policies.

In addition to granting a full panel of judges for the appeal, the 10th Circuit also said in its March 29th response to Hobby Lobby’s plea that it will “grant the pending request to expedite oral argument,” thereby accelerating the appeals process.

The court said that a date for the appeals case will be set soon. Arguments are expected to take place in the spring.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; contraception; hhs; hobbylobby; lawsuit; mandate; obamacare; religiousliberty

1 posted on 04/02/2013 9:06:14 AM PDT by NYer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 04/02/2013 9:06:35 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Didn’t the “Wise Latina” of the US Supreme Court already make this determination? Or was what she did merely a punt?


3 posted on 04/02/2013 9:11:18 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

this is good for hobby lobby. the choice option for small business owners has been delayed till 2015. Odumb@$$Care makes the government look like a bunch of jack@$$es, because they cannot implement their deadlines so they arbitrarily change the dates.


4 posted on 04/02/2013 9:12:15 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

It says she denied an emergency injunction but not the case.

The business was able to defer the mandate start date by changing effective dates of their insurance coverage.


5 posted on 04/02/2013 9:12:54 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NYer
If Hobby Lobby loses, we no longer live in a Constitutional Republic, which means there has been a coup.
6 posted on 04/02/2013 9:13:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hostage

Thanks for the clarification.


7 posted on 04/02/2013 9:14:31 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

Comment #8 Removed by Moderator

To: NYer

When reading that the federal government would impose $1.3 million per day fine on this business and its Christian owners for not providing baby killing coverage, I had a sudden vision that we are headed for a uprising. Such persecution cannot be tolerated. The only way to get serious attention of federal courts and agencies seems to be, I am sorry to say, an uprising.

If the federal government wants to bill people direct for their baby killing coverage, fine and they can deal with the backlash. Leave businesses and their sponsored health coverage alone!


9 posted on 04/02/2013 9:19:52 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Why should companies have to pay for any health insurance at all?
It used to be a perk, a way to attract good workers.
After people started to take it for granted, and it became mandatory, the gov't has been using it as a vehicle to pile massive costs onto businesses, without any checks and balances.
Now each business have to spend tons time and money on something not related to their area of expertise.
Get companies out of health care, unless they choose to provide it.
Maybe opt to give people a raise or a voucher to go seek their own coverage. Or nothing.
People can then choose to work for a large company with perks and overhead, or a lean company that pays better.

10 posted on 04/02/2013 9:44:48 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All
12/29/12 FR POSTED: Hobby Lobby to Defy Sotomayor Ruling on Morning-After Pill

SUPPORT HOBBY LOBBY Hobby Lobby is one of the few stores that carries the Krylon Looking Glass Spray Paint needed to make those wonderful antique mercury glass look-alike items. The mercury glass objects look great in Christmas displays with votive lights flickering inside----I used cobalt blue accent pieces.


Examples of Krylon sprayed on clear glass items---lots of tutorials on-line.

====================================

NO STORES NEAR YOU? SHOP HOBBY LOBBY ONLINE

http://www.hobbylobby.com/home.cfm?market=yp

===========================================

MARTHASTEWART.COM...has this simple technique that lends new, shiny glass ornaments the muted, authentic appearance of antique mercury glass---supplies available at Hobby Lobby. . NOTE: As authentic mercury glass ages, it loses some of its luster and tends to darken in spots. DIY'ers will need a little paint and small sponges to get the effect.

Tools and Materials---1 small tube of white gouache paint, 1 small tube of black gouache paint, 2 small natural sponges,Tissues

How-To

1. Place tea each white/black paint in separate bowls. Dilute with water droplets til consistency of heavy cream. 2. dab entire surface with sponge dipped in white gouache cream. 3. While still wet, use tissues to gently dab creating a mottled look. 4. W/ 2nd sponge, lightly and sparingly dab a few places with black gouache. 5. Use clean tissues to lighten and blur the black spots, creating the appearance of flaked mercury glass. 6. Let dry for at least 1 hour.

11 posted on 04/02/2013 9:46:44 AM PDT by Liz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: fwdude
The fact that there weren't Senators hanging from lamp posts in DC after they passed BarryCare means there won't be any reaction other than more talk. Folks made one big demonstration then went home to figure out what condiments they need to buy to help them stomach the chit sandwich they resigned themselves to eating.

There wasn't even enough anger and energy to throw King Barry out of office in the past election.
The democrat facist party has a very long history of using violence to get their way.
Those who oppose these fascists have a very long history of harsh language among themselves.

So this bloody reaction will be magic assault keyboards? Incantations that make harsh language lethal?

I wish things were different, but I'm afraid that when people can find an excuse to not vote to keep Barry out of a second term no matter who the alternative is, they're not going to do anything except sit and chatter.

12 posted on 04/02/2013 9:49:11 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Liz

AWESOME! I wanna try this!


13 posted on 04/02/2013 9:52:22 AM PDT by magna carta
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: BitWielder1
Companies ending coverage works out every bit as well for the democrat fascist crowd. They'll still be able to control who lives and who dies once they're past age 65 by regulations on hospitals and doctors.

Insurance is the stalking horse, Federal control and regulations and mandates on doctors and hospitals has to be eliminated and left entirely to each State.

14 posted on 04/02/2013 10:00:13 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: NYer

10th Circuit jurisdiction includes: Colorado, Kansas, New Mexico, Eastern, Northern and Western Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming.


15 posted on 04/02/2013 10:06:24 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: magna carta

Wonderful-looking-—so easy to do with little work-—and no craft skills.


16 posted on 04/02/2013 10:19:51 AM PDT by Liz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Yes, I beleive the stupid mexican member of the hispanic klan did make some such comment.


17 posted on 04/02/2013 10:20:46 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Rashputin
Insurance is the stalking horse, Federal control and regulations and mandates on doctors and hospitals has to be eliminated and left entirely to each State.

Right. By making something MANDATORY by LAW, they have everyone over the barrel.
However, I'm not sure if the states should be in the insurance business either, besides setting basic rules.
Insurance should not be mandatory. If you can drive without insurance, why can't you live without insurance?
And IF medical insurance is to be mandatory, then it should be bare-bones minimum, to defray costs if you get sick.
Not to cover everything, like sex change operations and other non-essential things.

18 posted on 04/02/2013 10:35:02 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: NYer

To be decided by the Supreme court of lawless judges.


19 posted on 04/02/2013 11:25:01 AM PDT by Revel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]




Freepers, your Contributions make every difference!
Please keep ‘em coming! Thank you all very much!

20 posted on 04/02/2013 1:21:24 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BitWielder1

Are you saying there are states where you can legally drive without insurance?

Enlighten me as to which ones.

Texas certainly isn’t one of them.


21 posted on 04/02/2013 1:37:15 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Why can’t Hobby Lobby, no matter the ruling of the court, simply cease funding of health care?

There is no rational reason for an employer to fund health insurance any more than for them to fund auto insurance.

If honorable dealing is the issue, they can give each employee the value in money of their particular health care package.

They are out of the health business, and the employees are taken care of, and each of them gets to decide for him/her self where they get their health care.


22 posted on 04/02/2013 1:42:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins
Why can’t Hobby Lobby, no matter the ruling of the court, simply cease funding of health care?

The law does not require employers to offer health insurance; however, beginning in 2014, employers with more than 50 full-time employees that do not offer coverage will have to pay a penalty of $2,000 per full-time equivalent employee for all full-time employees in excess of 30 if even one employee receives a federal government subsidy and purchases coverage in an exchange.

Employer Penalty for Unaffordable Coverage: If an employee opts out of an employer plan because coverage is “unaffordable”—that is, if the premium exceeds 9.5 percent of family income—the employer must pay a $3,000 penalty for each full-time employee who receives a government subsidy and purchases coverage through an exchange.

The government gets them coming and going.

23 posted on 04/02/2013 1:50:50 PM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Liz

Do you know why that paint is so hard to find?


24 posted on 04/02/2013 2:13:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Liz

I LOVE Hobby Lobby. I recently got back into quilting after many years of not sewing and am appalled at the price of nice cotton fabric. Hobby Lobby has 30 percent off their calico fabric all the time, not quite as much to choose from as JoAnn’s or other places, but good enough. It is a pleasant place to shop, the workers in our store are so nice. And the canned music overhead is hymns and other Christian music.

They have a great selection of drawing paper and art supplies too.


25 posted on 04/02/2013 2:16:08 PM PDT by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: txrangerette
I believe some states will accept a proof of assets, a lien or a bond posted for the minimum legal coverage amount. Basically you have to prove you can pay up for minimal damages without insurance.

Even if you have insurance, you can still be sued for a much higher amount so it doesn't do much for people with assets to take.

26 posted on 04/02/2013 2:40:18 PM PDT by varyouga
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: BitWielder1

A voucher would be a good idea.

You can take this voucher or an equivalent raise in pay...up to you.


27 posted on 04/02/2013 2:43:39 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. P

I love Hobby Lobby too. They do sell more than crafts and have gorgeous items for home decorating too.
Their prices on paintings, mirrors, patio furniture is cheap and what they sell is so unique


28 posted on 04/02/2013 3:09:15 PM PDT by katiedidit1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: RedMDer

That fist needs a weapon in it.


29 posted on 04/02/2013 3:39:40 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: NYer

the full nine? wow that is rare.


30 posted on 04/02/2013 3:40:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: clintonh8r

:)


31 posted on 04/02/2013 3:49:56 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

Comment #32 Removed by Moderator

To: NYer

Prayers up!


33 posted on 04/02/2013 4:35:36 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cyber Liberty

It’s very popular among hobbyists——mfg probably can’t keep up with demand.


34 posted on 04/02/2013 5:08:22 PM PDT by Liz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: NYer
The law does not require employers to offer health insurance; however, beginning in 2014, employers with more than 50 full-time employees that do not offer coverage will have to pay a penalty of $2,000 per full-time equivalent employee for all full-time employees in excess of 30 if even one employee receives a federal government subsidy and purchases coverage in an exchange. Employer Penalty for Unaffordable Coverage: If an employee opts out of an employer plan because coverage is “unaffordable”—that is, if the premium exceeds 9.5 percent of family income—the employer must pay a $3,000 penalty for each full-time employee who receives a government subsidy and purchases coverage through an exchange. The government gets them coming and going.

Other than the constitutionl issues, what's the downside from a purely business perspective? I provide each of my New York employees at my expense with a high-deductible health insurance plan, with family coverage, at a cost of $13,000 per year per covered employee. I will save a huge amount of money when I terminate the plan next year, even after paying the penalties and splitting the remainder 50-50 with the effected employees after deducting the additional labor burden.

35 posted on 04/02/2013 5:56:06 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Liz
Metallic paints are very popular among paint-sniffers, and the supply has to be kept locked up.


36 posted on 04/02/2013 6:16:43 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Rashputin

To #12: All our lampposts in the DC area lean to the Left. Hard to hang anything from them. Besides that, many of them don’t work, like a lot of Democrat voters. Others are so dim, you can understand where the saying “Dimmest bulb in the pack” came from.

In the DC area, so many things don’t work that you have to ask “What does work” in order to get a short answer” and it is getting worse.

There isn’t a competent Democrat leader within 30 miles of DC.


37 posted on 04/02/2013 6:24:42 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: txrangerette
Are you saying there are states where you can legally drive without insurance? Enlighten me as to which ones.

A quick search found New Hampshire, Ohio and South Carolina. There may be others.

In NH you have to prove you have sufficient funds to pay for damages yourself.
In Ohio, drivers must buy a $30,000 bond from an authorized company or make a deposit of the same amount at the state treasury.
South Carolina requires a yearly $550 fee for driving uninsured – but the driver will still be responsible for paying all damages if guilty.

They all agree it's a bad idea, but it *is* legal.
Some companies offer optional insurance for when hit by an uninsured driver and they are unable to pay. Which usually is the case.

Of course, illegals are not hampered by rules, not even in Texas.

38 posted on 04/02/2013 6:39:50 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: NYer

i (heart) Hobby Lobby. finally a t-shirt i could wear.


39 posted on 04/02/2013 9:00:51 PM PDT by dadfly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

There is no rational basis for a business being responsible for an employees health insurance. Nada.

It would make far more sense for the employer to give the $2000 to the employee and have them be responsible for their own health care, and if they want the government version, then they can pay the gov’t that $2000.


40 posted on 04/03/2013 5:23:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: BitWielder1; txrangerette

Virginia as well. When I lived there you could purchase a an insurance waiver from the state for something like $100. That may have changed in the the intervening time.


41 posted on 04/03/2013 5:57:44 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: NYer
really appreciate this update, good luck to those people, hehe.
42 posted on 04/03/2013 8:22:11 AM PDT by Drawn7979
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Prayers up in this pathetic “fundamentally change(ling) society. God help us all with all the immorality and ...oh heck, just praying here.


43 posted on 04/03/2013 2:01:51 PM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: txrangerette

NH is one of them.


44 posted on 04/04/2013 1:55:37 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson