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To: Salvavida

Mormons belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

So, kinda by definition - we believe that Jesus, the only begotten son of God, born of the Virgin Mary, is the one true path to salvation.

Don’t know where other people get the arrogance to call us “not Christian”. You will likely never see another Mormon say such a thing to any other person who is of a different faith. We call this “respect”.

We use the King James Bible, just like you; plus we have other sets of scriptures that supplement the KJB. If you were to look at one of our scriptures (any one, take your pick) and open it up to any page (randomly finger through one) - you would see that nearly 20-30% of each page is used to cross-reference the KJB, both Old and New Testaments, as well as our other scriptures. These sets of scriptures compliments each other and the KJB; they do not contradict it. Feel free to borrow a set from a member, and critically examine it - we welcome the investigation. In fact, that’s what we call people who visit the church and seek to learn more - investigators. You see, what is important is for you to believe, having done your own research, using our own free will, using whatever tools you feel are appropriate. Read, take your time, ask questions if you wish - or do it privately. All we ask is that you perform 1 task at some point during your investigation.

Kneel down at your bed, in private, and in sincerity pray to God and ask Him to send the Holy Ghost to testify as to the truthfulness or falseness of what you have discovered. Entirely your call.

Perhaps this is why the student was willing to stand up and raise his voice against authority. He had a personal testimony - as opposed to being of a faith merely because his parents forced him to attend a particular church.


55 posted on 03/30/2013 2:03:59 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Hodar; Salvavida

Keith Walker quote from Dave Mitchell’s book, “Challenge to Investigate:”

1. The LDS say my church (traditional Christianity) was “hatched in hell” (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Volume 6, page 176).
2. My Christianity is perverted and apostate (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, page 132).
3. My church is the church of the devil (1 Nephi 14:10).
4. My church is wrong. (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith History 1:18-19, as was state above).
5. My church is the anti-Christ (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, page 40).
6. My church is evil and is the Whore of Babylon (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, page138).
7. My church is leading me to hell. (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, page 419).
8. My church will be hewn down and cast into the fire of no return (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, page 139).
9. My Heavenly Father is imaginary (Apostle Parley P. Pratt, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, page 39).
10. My Heavenly Father is invented (Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, page 426).
11. My Jesus is mythical (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, 269).
12. My triune God is a monster (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, page 372).
13. My creeds are an abomination ” (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith History 1:18-19, stated above).
14. My justification is pernicious (Joseph Fielding Smith, The Restoration of All Things, page 192).
15. My grace is a fallacious doctrine originated by Satan (Spencer W. Kimball, Miracle of Forgiveness, page 206).
16. My pastor is corrupt (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith History 1:18-19, stated above).
17. My pastor is presumptuous and blasphemous for performing marriages and offering communion (Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 55).
18. My Bible is untrustworthy (Book of Mormon, I Nephi 13:28).
19. I am a fool for believing in the Bible alone (Book of Mormon, II Nephi 29:6).
20. I am a child of the devil (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, page 138).
21. My baptism is invalid (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, page 192)
22. I am unforgiven (Rulon S. Wells, Conference report, April 1936, page 42).
23. I am damned (Bruce R. McConkie, The Millennial Messiah, page 77).
24. I know nothing of God (John Taylor, May 6, 1870, Journal of Discourses 13:225).
25. My hope of salvation is influenced by the devil (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, page 270).
26. I have no right to preach the gospel (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, page 136).
27. I am not a true Christian (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, page 132).

“Then, when I attempt to offer any sort of disagreement or rebuttal, you [LDS] accuse me of hatred, bigotry and un-Christlike behavior. If that isn’t enough, to add insult to injury, you want to steal my name and have me accept you as a Christian.

“That’s not happening. What do you call something that insults you, never apologizes and in an attempt to convince you that it is just like you, cozies up to you because you have something it wants? My friends, that is called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” (www. evidenceministries.org, “Mormonism’s Hypocritical Attack,” March 2012).


56 posted on 03/30/2013 2:10:21 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Hodar

Jesus is eternal. He always was. He was not created. The Bible clearly teaches that. Your Jesus cannot save because he’s not God. Therefore, you are not Christian, and that’s the end of the argument.


59 posted on 03/30/2013 3:56:13 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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