Posted on 03/26/2013 7:02:12 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
I was wondering where you studied Constitutional law?
McCain ran. Zero is now in the White House.
Cruz can be president. The senate will allow him.
CCPS,
You did a good analysis of the article and refutal of dershowitz’s angle.
There’s reference to “ natural born citizen” in the Minor vs. Happersett court case.
I’m not concerned if someone calls it “dicta”, at least a court looked at the issue and put their analysis in writing.
(P.s. don’t feed the trolls!)
Does not anyone find it odd that so many of the top possible candidates or past candidates are of questionable NBC status? It almost seems like a plot to pic no one besides questionable people.
I guess all the libs and lefties that said birthers were nuts will get to wear the shoe on the other foot soon. Ironic isn’t it?... Lol
This is the time to defend our Constitution; it is not the time to be searching for ways to attempt to further empower elitist, unelected judges.
“Does not anyone find it odd that so many of the top possible candidates or past candidates are of questionable NBC status?”
Yes. It’s appalling. Ted Cruz was born with three citizenships and allegiances.
Yes, I have noticed it, and I find it disconcerting.
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I guess all the libs and lefties that said birthers were nuts will get to wear the shoe on the other foot soon. Ironic isn’t it?... Lol
If many Freepers can’t decipher what a natural born citizen is, how can we expect the LIVs to understand?
Carry on and thank you for the post.
Yes, it’s really too bad that people are so dumbed-down that they can’t see that the Founders made a distinction between the President and Senators and House members when it came to qualifications. I have YET to see anyone explain the difference.
If any of you are a “low information” citizen, please read the constitutional requirements for President, as opposed to Senators and Congressmen, and tell me WHY the President is required to be a “natural born citizen” and the others are just required to be “citizens.”
No, it is the same thing that happened to the Roman Empire. It took only 110 years for their first Emperor to come from outside of Rome.
But since they've never understood the issue anyway, judging by their articles on the subject, what would one expect!
4 if you count The Texas Republic!
Yeah, I am sure young Ted was singing “Oh Canada” /s
It took a while to get here. The last ~40 yrs of public education has been leading up to this moment. Kids have been taught to devalue citizenship, to the extent it has nothing to do w being raised by foreign and/or anti-American parents, but only to do w over which patch of dirt a baby was dropped. As if being raised American, with a knowledge of our traditions, history & mindset plays no part in it at all.
Then they’ve been carefully guarded from critical-rational thinking skills, taught that everything is relative/subjective, and above all indoctrinated to believe that all discrimination is wrong/bad/evil. Thus, to discriminate against the citizen children of foreigners is an unthinkable evil in the minds of the last 2 generations, at least.
You have a few older conservatives who ought to know better but who jumped on the anti-discrimination bandwagon, and now try to convince others that it represents the Framers’ thinking. As if the Framers cared more about PC than guarding the country from chief executives w foreign allegiances. People in the last category are the ones most wanting in intellectual depth & fiber. The rest can blame their public school indoctrination. Above a certain age, it’s just weak thinking—provided actual *thinking* plays any part in it at all.
a child born in NYC to 2 French citizens would be deemed a US citizen by location of birth... but could also claim French citizenship due to the parents
if this person were able to be president, then it would be possible for the king of France to become president of the US, assuming he still existed.
this is the situation the founders were determined to strictly prevent... hence the wording
It seems to me (simple guy that I am) that there are only two ways to become a citizen. One is through “naturalization” and the other is to be born a citizen. Anyone accepted as a citizen without “naturalization” is natural born like Senator Cruz who serves in the Senate (you have to be a citizen for that) but has not been “naturalized.” QED - He’s a “natural born citizen” and clearly eligible for the Presidency (he’s over 35, isn’t he?). Why/how can it be any more complicated than this?
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