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To: RinaseaofDs

Standing may be a clean way out...... Or is it?

Nobody that heard the arguments today believes DOMA will be upheld. Prop 8 will not be upheld. With these two things even win a narrow reading by the supremes California and 8 other states will have same sex marriage with federal benefits.,fast forward to tomorrow. Literally tomorrow. A same sex couple say in Wyoming now has standing with the court because they ar being injured by not having status by there state. This forces the court to rule on the equal protection clause.

In the end the June ruling is the end or the beginning of the end. There is no way gay marriage will not be the law of the land within 2-4 years.

The only defense used in two days was procreation. I did not find that argument compelling because you can not force married couples to have children. The second question I have heard no answer to is how does gay marriage hurt the institution? The question was asked ans the answer was it does not. Without a compelling answer to the last one the fight is over.


154 posted on 03/27/2013 7:01:07 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

To quote Peter Hitchens (not specifically on this topic)” We are living in the afterglow of Christianity.” And an afterglow, as we all know, does not last indefinitely.


155 posted on 03/27/2013 10:07:40 PM PDT by madameguinot
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To: chopperjc

Actually, they all seem VERY cautious about overturning 2000 years of world history. It isn’t their job.

As for the impact or effect, the ONLY answer anybody believes that I’ve heard after three days is that:

NOBODY KNOWS what the impact is going to be

Which is the truth. The signs are there that it is going to be a tremendous horror show, and there are pieces out there by Dennis Prager and others that document the history of homosexuality, and characterize this as REGRESSION.

During the time of Rome, it was not uncommon to use homosexual rape to demonstrate dominance over a subjugated people. It was Judeo-Christianity that introduced the idea of monogamy and the nuclear family. Prager writes an outstanding article on this.

None of the maintstream religions think its a good idea, up to and including the Dalai Lama, the ELCA and Episcopalians notwithstanding.

This isn’t lost on these guys. Lots of evidence to indicate all hell will literally break loose if they do this. There is even reticence within the homosexual community.

Don’t confuse a cornered mainstream media, with its dying business model, hammering away at passing this as a way of reasserting its ongoing legitimacy in controlling the culture.

Obamacare was bad enough. This is a lot of change in a little span of time, and if they strike the 9th’s ruling based on STANDING, it leaves the door open to see this again later, AND it puts this back onto the states where it belongs.

The 9th and 10th amendments are the ‘Rodney Dangerfield’s’ of the Constitution, while the 14th is Lady Gaga.


156 posted on 03/28/2013 9:31:02 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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