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Supreme Court Says It's Illegal For A Police Drug Dog To Sniff Your Porch
Business Insider ^ | Mar. 26, 2013 | Michael Kelley

Posted on 03/26/2013 9:39:18 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies

The Supreme Court has ruled that police use of a drug-sniffing dog on a homeowner's porch is a violation of the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. [...]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; badcopnodonut; donttreadonme; donutwatch; drugs; drugwar; govtabuse; lawsuit; ruling; scouts; supremecourt; ussc; warondrugs; waronliberty; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I would think this ruling might set a precedent for future rulings on searches/spying by drones, or at least give an inidcation on where the current Supreme Court members might stand on the issue.


21 posted on 03/26/2013 9:57:10 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Don Corleone

This was a real eye opener to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdOKUb0jQko

And I have not touched weed since 1977.


22 posted on 03/26/2013 9:59:05 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I can see both sides of the argument, but since the Bill of Rights is a constraint on government that was a condition for the adoption of the Constitution, I think it good that we set some pretty high barriers to government action. Good call by the Court.


23 posted on 03/26/2013 9:59:13 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: ClearCase_guy
Scalia and Thomas respect the Constitution.

Except when Scalia is putting Wickard v Filburn on steroids to fight the demon weed: "Where necessary to make a regulation of interstate commerce effective, Congress may regulate even those intrastate activities that do not themselves substantially affect interstate commerce." - GONZALES V. RAICH (03-1454) 545 U.S. 1 (2005) (concurring)

24 posted on 03/26/2013 9:59:26 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Sure, if he's sniffing for drugs.

What if it's just one of those things dogs do?

25 posted on 03/26/2013 9:59:28 AM PDT by x
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

No, he put it where it belonged, in the unlawful search category vice a trespass issue. The former requires a warrant or at least reasonable suspicion/probable cause which is much more specific than a simple matter of trespass.

In my mind, bringing a police dog on to my property is a de facto search. They exist for specific reasons, attack/hold, search. A dog in the control of a LEO is either a weapon or a search device, nothing more, nothing less. A cop and a dog standing on the right of way are fine, step on to my property/within my curtilage, and you’d better have a warrant! The dog exists for no other purpose. Police don’t get to bring Fuzzy the pet along for personal comfort.


26 posted on 03/26/2013 10:00:10 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Scalia’s vote on South Dakota v Dole was bad too.


27 posted on 03/26/2013 10:04:36 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; ...

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28 posted on 03/26/2013 10:07:06 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Another day and proof positive the ultra inferior, not supreme, court proves once again they are nothing but political hacks.

Now before you go and attack me because you agree with the decision please note SO DO I.

5-4 decision. Just how inferior are these black robed morons that there seem to be 4 who can never agree what a very short document with back up in the form of the Federalist papers, means when it comes to REQUIRING a warrant?

All it will take is for one more of these morons to retire and the NAPA in the White Hut to appoint another traitor to the constitution.

The 4 who voted against this should be immediately removed, tried for treason, and receive the proper penalty for said treason.

How much longer are we going to allow the government to erode the rights WE DID NOT give them?

We allowed them to conduct warrantless searches in airports, train stations, government buildings so they INFRINGED on the 4th Amendment and we did nothing.

This decision is simply a bump in the road for this government until the NAPA in the White House can tilt the court towards communism.


29 posted on 03/26/2013 10:09:15 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Don Corleone

“The dogs are very very good at their job, much better than Napolitano for sure.”


Better looking too!


30 posted on 03/26/2013 10:10:04 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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FYI, apparently this is Franky, the police dog in question:


31 posted on 03/26/2013 10:20:33 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Joe 6-pack
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32 posted on 03/26/2013 10:24:32 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Supreme Court Says It's Illegal For A Police Drug Dog To Sniff Your Porch

Then why is it not illegal for a police drug dog to sniff your car?

33 posted on 03/26/2013 10:28:16 AM PDT by South40 (I Love The "New & Improved" Free Republic!)
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To: SargeK

Could have been the “fake” stuff you burn to educate people what it smells like instead of the real thing . How did you know ?


34 posted on 03/26/2013 10:30:20 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: South40

They also “illegally” sniff your ass when you go through customs.


35 posted on 03/26/2013 10:31:48 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Don Corleone
I wonder what the ‘false positive’ rate is there.

Decades ago when I was still enlisted I was in my barracks room on a day off. It was around noon and I was making a ham and cheese sandwich at my desk.

Law Enforcement came through the barracks with the drug dog and it went nuts at my door. The cop encouraged the dog to enter and it came over to me. The cop tried to get the dog to sniff around and give the "alert" again but it had smelled the ham and placed his head on my leg and begged me for a bite.

I guess that would be a false positive.

36 posted on 03/26/2013 10:35:56 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: OldMissileer
I guess that would be a false positive.

Not from the dog's point of view.

37 posted on 03/26/2013 10:41:38 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: cuban leaf

I think if it’s true a cop can on purpose or unintentionally cause a dog to give a false positive, they should NEVER be able to use them without a warrant, ANYWHERE.

We’ve all known they can do this with their dogs and there is an incredible harassment power with it. Do not think the power has not been abused, or that it won’t be worse in the future. And there are plenty of cops who aren’t above planting a baggie somewhere then the dog “finds” it. And there goes your freedom, vehicle, and you’re done.


38 posted on 03/26/2013 10:42:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Manly Warrior

He’s more than a search tool. You don’t get “murdering an officer” for destroying a search tool. Cops get nothing done to them for using the dog “search tool” incorrectly either.


39 posted on 03/26/2013 10:44:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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WOOOF!

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40 posted on 03/26/2013 10:51:38 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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