Skip to comments.Cyprus bail-out: savers will be raided to save euro in future crises, says eurozone chief
Posted on 03/26/2013 5:09:41 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Savings accounts in Spain, Italy and other European countries will be raided if needed to preserve Europe's single currency by propping up failing banks, a senior eurozone official has announced. The new policy will alarm hundreds of thousands of British expatriates who live and have transferred their savings, proceeds from house sales and other assets to eurozone bank accounts in countries such as France, Spain and Italy. The euro fell on global markets after Jeroen Dijsselbloem, the Dutch chairman of the eurozone, announced that the heavy losses inflicted on depositors in Cyprus would be the template for future banking crises across Europe.
"If there is a risk in a bank, our first question should be 'Okay, what are you in the bank going to do about that? What can you do to recapitalise yourself?'," he said. "If the bank can't do it, then we'll talk to the shareholders and the bondholders, we'll ask them to contribute in recapitalising the bank, and if necessary the uninsured deposit holders."
Ditching a three-year-old policy of protecting senior bondholders and large depositors, over 100,000, in banks, Mr Dijsselbloem argued that the lack of market contagion surrounding Cyprus showed that private investors could now be hit to pay for bad banking debts.
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My big worry is efforts to convert 401k assets to federal IOUs, uh, I mean Gubmit Bonds.
I think I’m going to the bank today.
Look for bank runs everywhere in Europe.The guy’s not too stealthy by making a statement like this.
Today it is Cyprus bailout, yesterday Greece, tomorrow Spain or is it Italy, Ireland, or eslewhere.
We have a perpetual rolling bailout, and soon a Eurozone Crisis/Crises Fatigue. Healines of ‘such and such crisis’ will no longer have meaning even if it spread out throughout the world.
Except when IT hits you and me personally.
A prudent person would start going to their bank once a week. Kind of a slow motion run.
and someday, if and when that happens, payments back from new govt bonds issued to replace seized retirement accounts will be means-tested, like soon to be social security, so you only get back according to your “need” and you get to “contribute” to others who have “needs”
It is the ultimate grand redistribution of wealth of the middle class (the uppers will always have shelter and advance warning)
How many years left? 3? 4? 10?
Coming to the USA soon
The bank of choice has just become precious metals stuffed under the mattress.
Diamonds may be a good alternative. And who knows, they may be easier to obtain than precious metals, for which there may be a call to confiscate.
For traveling money, keep some stuffed down in the sock as well. And look for unguarded border crossings.
Pull this crap on your own and they put you in prison.
“Uh oh. It’s spreading.”
And Wall Street says rally on... wtf is going on here?
Are they trying to kill the credit industry?
This man’s arrogance is startling. To publicly announce that this is a future acceptable action is proof of a level of hubris we have not yet seen even from the Eurocrats.
If the PIIGs don’t start seeing banks runs soon, we will know for certain that the minions of Europe will submit to anything. That is very frightening.
Bammy and his cretinous followers are watching this very carefully. Europe is their template.
Time to transfer your savings to a mason jar.
Anyone that is not truly spooked right now is really dense.
Wow — I can’t think of a better, more effective way to crash banks than to create hysteria about savings account confiscation.
Oh Dear Lord in Heaven protect us. The EU is falling apart and John Kerry is our Secretary of State.
What - do they think people will just leave their savings in banks vulnerable to confiscation?
No, they’ll pull it all out, and the government will have to steal it the way our government is stealing it - debauching the currency through the printing of money.
Same place as Christine LaGarde and other IMF “diplomats” keep their tax-free salaries
IMF slogan: Tax free, Not for thee, but OK for me
Psst: I wonder if the Russians have heard that Puerto Rico is for sale?
As the informed FReepers have already read, the Russian bad boys have already emptied their Cyprus bank accounts via Cyrus branches in Russia and UK.
We are already in a (masked by printing money & fabricating economics stats in the USA) depression. What’s the next step down?
Meet Mad Max?
March 26, 2013 12:00 A.M.
Cyprus: Can It Happen Here?
Quantitative easing is another way to steal your savings.
By Thomas Sowell
That is in fact already happening. When officials of the Federal Reserve System speak in vague and lofty terms about quantitative easing, what they are talking about is creating more money out of thin air, as the Federal Reserve is authorized to do and has been doing in recent years, to the tune of tens of billions of dollars a month.
When the federal government spends far beyond the tax revenues it has, it gets the extra money by selling bonds. The Federal Reserve has become the biggest buyer of these bonds, since it costs them nothing to create more money.
This new money buys just as much as the money you sacrificed to save for years. More money in circulation, without a corresponding increase in output, means rising prices. Although the numbers in your bank book may remain the same, part of the purchasing power of your money is transferred to the government. Is that really different from what Cyprus has done?
I guess the financial “crises” will become a much more common event now.../s
This statement was beyond dumb. Almost like they are trying to “create” a bank run.
I would think Swiss banks would be the beneficiaries of such talk.
If the Euro and banks are such a failure that it requires the looting of saving accounts then they should get rid of the Euro and the banks. But then again the whole point of the Euro IS to fail so that they can loot the saving accounts and force the euro nations to give up more and more sovereignty. And when the people are completely broke they will cry out for some one to save them and the very Globalist Banksters that impoverished the people will be ready with a solution: A One World Government, a One World Currency and a One World Bank that the Banksters own and control.
You’re behind the times.
The Federal Reserve and Federal Government have been robbing us a few percent per year since the Fed was first incorporated. Your dollar today is worth about $.05 when the Fed was incorporated. Maybe less.
Several factors are keeping Wall street flying high imho. 0% interest from the banks means people are wanting some kind of return and are willing to gamble their money to make more, investment from foreign currency in our markets as a safe haven (which will only increase now) and the false sense of prosperity that $14,500 DOW index is giving people. (Until you factor in the devaluation of the dollar since 2008.)
I have been a glass half full kind of guy since I was a kid, but lately, especially after spending the last 3 weeks trying to find a lousy box of .22 shells for my kid and having no luck at all, I am really starting to be convinced I need to start prepping in a serious way.
During a run on a bank its best to show up early before the crowd does. Sounds like now is the time.
Cyprus is the break in the wall of infinite printing. Bernake has been funneling trillions of FED zero percent dollars to the Euros trying to save their banking system. This has failed, as predicted, and now we are moving into the haircut / bank run phase. All trust in the international financial system will soon begin to erode and everyone will circle the wagons.
The elites at the top of this blatant stealing of depositors money will soon discover the nature of unintended consequences. When depositors and savers start looking at their mattress as more secure than a bank, the fractional reserve banking system will rapidly collapse with nothing to leverage but other suckers promises to pay in the future if things go bad (i.e. the shadow quadrillion derivative market). Bernake has pumped for 5 years trying to save the derivative death star while refusing to reign his buddies in. Looks like that chapter is coming to a close one way or another as the Euro has now set down the path of depression banking.
Liberals are such morons.
I can’t wait to see what Nigel Farage has to say regarding this obvious failure of the Euro and Eurozone dictatorship.
That’s a warning. Italians get your money out of the bank now!
Look to the volume of shares traded. Compare today with 2007 before the slide and the only answer is the slush fund bailouts are doing the buying. As long as the "market" shows anything up, the low information doofusses think it is all good.
I heard something like the volume was 3.x billion before the housing bubble bursting and lately it has been about 500K.
Just do a google for "stock market volume history" and the list of stories on this is full of examples.
What’s the real problem with what this guy has said?
He is saying in effect, end ‘too big to fail’ in Europe and let failing banks fail. Insured deposits remain guaranteed, it is those who invested in the bank, or have accounts over 100k Euro that would take the loss.
They’re trying to end the moral hazard they created by socializing the bank losses in the first place.
What he said is truly what needs to be done, is the problem just that he said it out loud?
"Guten morgen, Herr Drill, and welcome to our bank! Here's yer toaster."
"Ze gut news is zat ze toaster iss yours. Ze bad news iss zat ze money iss ours."
The guys in Brussels are trying to keep the ponzi scam running. Unfortunately folks are starting to realize that the folks in Brussels will have advance warning when the bank system will go down the tubes since they will cause it. Look for bank runs through out Europe starting basically now.
In a safe deposit box guarded by the gnomes of Zurich,Geneva.
Democrat administration. If it were a Republican administration, the media would have already started bank runs here.
Dear government(s). You do not own our money. You do not have the right to take it. Private property existed before you formed your government.
Actually, they want to take your private retirement funds, pool them in “safe investments” and redistribute them to replace Socialist inSecurity. Dems have the legislation all ready to slam through in our government debt coming “crisis.” That is why Obama is trying to run down Social Security and Medicare so he can create the crisis for the elderly. He’s spending Social Security money on generous SSI benefits and he’s cutting Medicare to cover part of the cost of Obamacare.