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Rand Paulís Budget Kills Departments of Commerce, Education, Housing, and Energy
Pajamas Media ^ | 03/25/2013 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 03/25/2013 11:23:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

WOW !


51 posted on 03/25/2013 12:25:24 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Rubio: (MIA-FL)


52 posted on 03/25/2013 12:25:34 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”nice thought...since it wasnt going anywhere anyhow, shouldve at least tripled the gutting of whole depts...”

That's like my comment on Ryan's, since it isnt going anywhere then why not be serious?

Amazing that these GOPs are talking about supporting giving illegals the vote and then throwing out these fantasy budgets, as if their new Dreamer voters would support them.

Notice that Rand did not mention this last week in his 'reach out' speech to that Hispanic group, who he called 'natural conservatives' ????

53 posted on 03/25/2013 12:32:57 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s what I’m talkin’ about. CUT CUT CUT. And start with Government departments FIRST and foremost.

As well, any and all Progressive legislation that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Go Rand. I may not agree with him 100% of the time, but he is one true patriot at least TRYING to take back this country from these elitist power hungry a-holes.


54 posted on 03/25/2013 12:41:27 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: WKB

“Call your senators: Oh never mind”

I wasn’t sure if your “Oh never mind” was because the vote had already been held or but as I suspect that you didn’t believe they would do the right thing and actually vote for spending cuts and responsibility. They have both discouraged me but especially Senator Cochran.


55 posted on 03/25/2013 12:47:12 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: SeekAndFind

DOD umbrella: It used to be that way but it got to be a bit troublesome because the Air Force needed most of the bombs but the Navy needed nuke fuel. Splitting the cost of building/maintaining the stuff was where it got awkward. Leaving an agency just to handle nuke material has always been the least cumbersome but I’m with it otherwise. Dump the rest of the DOE and throw in the EPA to make up any difference. Sounds like Rand has made a good start-—getting a 20% positive vote on short notice is a good sign. Now we just have to shame the rest into getting their surgery wherein their cranials are separated from their anals, a condition that developes with over exposure to vitamin K street.


56 posted on 03/25/2013 12:47:50 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SeekAndFind
Since the Departments of Commerce, Education, Housing and Urban Development, and Energy have yet to achieve their stated purposes why should we continue to fund them?

The Department of Commerce was created in 1904 and its main purpose is “to create jobs, promote economic growth, encourage sustainable development and improve standards of living for all Americans.” If it had achieved its stated purposes why the “War on Proverty”, food stamps, etc/ 110 years old and it has failed its stated purpose.

The Department of Education was created in1979 with the stated purpose of improving the education system as measured by college board scores. Does anyone think that the college board scores have improved over the last 30 plus years?

The Department of Housing and Urban Development was founded in 1965 with the expressed purpose “is to create strong, sustainable, inclusive communities and quality affordable homes for all.” If you walk down almost every “Martin Luther King Blvd” in the nation you'll have to wonder where all teh money went supporting the 14 laws issued since its establishment as a Cabinet level organization.

The Department of Energy was expanded of a nuclear centric organization to being the point man for energy independence after the first oil embargo in 1973. Its publically announced purpose was to make the US independent from Middle East Oil. Forty years later how is that going?

None of the four departments listed are Constitutionally mandated functions of the Federal Government. None of them have a record of successfully meeting their mission statements. So what business would continue to pay for failure and expand failing operations? Why should the tax payers continue to pay for institutional/bureaucratic failure?

57 posted on 03/25/2013 12:48:59 PM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Sybeck1

Is he going to run again? Any thoughts or rumours about who may run aginst him in the primary? I’m sure the field would be larger if he were to retire but at this point I really don’t want him to get it by acclamation.


58 posted on 03/25/2013 12:52:04 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So he’s an amnesty-promoting loon. He still has a lot of good ideas.


59 posted on 03/25/2013 1:02:35 PM PDT by Little Ray (No "Comprehensive" Immigration Reform. Fortifiy the Borders First.)
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To: duffee

He seems to be immune from all Tea Party fury. The only time I ever saw the guy in an interview was in the Trent Lott/ Strom Thurmond firestorm years ago. He just stays in ths shadows and quietly votes for pork and sometimes a little to the left.


60 posted on 03/25/2013 1:04:27 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: bicyclerepair
Texas always looks better.
61 posted on 03/25/2013 1:06:49 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: SeekAndFind
What do you propose to replace the IRS with?

Nothing.........would be a good start!

62 posted on 03/25/2013 1:07:45 PM PDT by Diego1618 ( Put "Ron" on the rock!)
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To: Diego1618

Let’s be serious, as much as I dislike the IRS, there has to be an entity who collects our taxes ( even with a pure flat tax or a sales tax ).


63 posted on 03/25/2013 1:13:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Taxes? If the fedgove did ONLY what authorized in the Constitution, it could be funded by tariffs. Maybe the states could kick in for the military.


64 posted on 03/25/2013 1:33:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bravo whiskey
. labor could go too.

Also the Dept of Agriculture, the national park Service, the National Forest Service and The completely corrupt Bureau of Indian Affairs.

65 posted on 03/25/2013 1:45:06 PM PDT by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: SeekAndFind
Let’s be serious, as much as I dislike the IRS, there has to be an entity who collects our taxes ( even with a pure flat tax or a sales tax ).

I suppose that before the 16th amendment (Income Tax/1913) was ratified we were all in a quandary as to how the government would collect its tribute? It was actually very simple. They just followed the Constitution.

We should do the same. If there is a more useless, unconstitutional government entity than the IRS I would like someone to point it out to me.

66 posted on 03/25/2013 1:56:25 PM PDT by Diego1618 ( Put "Ron" on the rock!)
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To: SeekAndFind

We must get to a balanced budget quickly with the elimination of departments. I would end EPA and OSHA letting the state agencies in those areas take over responsibility.

I don’t know if Paul’s plan is quick enough, but its better than the business as usual politicians plans.


67 posted on 03/25/2013 2:01:53 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE MY DREAMS)
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To: Nip

bump


68 posted on 03/25/2013 2:08:36 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: SeekAndFind
What do you propose to replace the IRS with?

The Port Tariff Authority.

69 posted on 03/25/2013 2:12:38 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: SeekAndFind
Paul’s budget kills four government agencies: the departments of Commerce, Education, Housing and Urban Development, and Energy.

Now all we need to do is cut the enforcement budget of the EPA and we are off to a really go start. As Levin says it is the private sector destruction agency.

70 posted on 03/25/2013 2:15:29 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Sirius Lee

Just what I said!! yes indeed. Bring the fedgov back to its mandated constiutitonal duties and it will need very little $.


71 posted on 03/25/2013 2:15:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem I have with Paul Ryan and his budgets is that he can never bring himself to name even one govt agency he can bear to shut down.


72 posted on 03/25/2013 2:26:21 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Sybeck1

A BAD Joke


73 posted on 03/25/2013 2:32:06 PM PDT by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: duffee

Neither of them voted for it according to post #7. Why are we not surprised?


74 posted on 03/25/2013 2:33:04 PM PDT by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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To: Diego1618

“Nothing” is good. Abolish the income tax. Abolish the IRS.


75 posted on 03/25/2013 3:09:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, Goody! That’ll pass without a peep from either side of the aisle, LOL!


76 posted on 03/25/2013 4:56:34 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Jim Robinson
“Nothing” is good. Abolish the income tax. Abolish the IRS.

Yup! Establishing a tax on incomes was probably the dumbest thing....we as a nation....have ever done. Then to compound the stupidity we allowed those nitwits (Congress) to implement withholding.....so we wouldn't feel the pain!

Dumb! Just dumb!

77 posted on 03/25/2013 5:16:40 PM PDT by Diego1618 ( Put "Ron" on the rock!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Thanks for posting this list. Those Senators should be considered as a base for the Conservative Party, a new beginning.


78 posted on 03/25/2013 6:35:52 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: Magnum44

The DOE is a piece of crap! I believe it was started back in the Carter administration.... that alone should be enough to kill it, including any so-called national defense components, which can be absorbed by the DOD without any added funding. While we are at it, I wish the entire remaining federal gubmint (State, DOJ, HUD, Commerce, Census, DOD - Pentagon staff), and the Exec branch & the corrupt judicial branch would all be instantly cut & laid off by 50%. And cut salaries across the board by 25% and cap retirement at 30% of the average of last 5 years of gubmint employment for the entire fed gubmint including elected officials, judiciary & POTUS & exec branch. Just cut the hell out of the bloated fed gubmint.


79 posted on 03/25/2013 6:36:17 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a bad start. Which ones are you going to eliminate next year?


80 posted on 03/25/2013 6:37:18 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where bold plans like this fall flat for me is the ‘how’, not the ‘what’. There are few if any on this forum who express any support for the department of education, but if you would kill it, what happens to all those programs currently in place for grants and financial aid? What of all the student loans underwritten and outstanding?

Let the looters swing? Yeah, that ain’t going to work when the looters can tie up any reforms with lawsuits and get voted into office the very next election, claiming the reformers are trying to destroy the nation or alternatively unable to prove any results from the ties up reforms.

Weaning the American populace off the government teat is not going to be easy, the judiciary is not on the side of strict constitutionalists, nor is academia, the media, or much of the business world which has developed a codependence to the stability a government ‘in’ gives then. Big reforms need to be done smartly and explained clearly (and often... and tenaciously) and they’ll need to be unwound in the same way they were wound in the first place: with support of congress and approval, sometimes haltingly, of the judical branch.

One of the constitution’s key benefits is that any one administration can’t drastically change the direction of the government quickly. This is also one of it’s key problems if you don’t like the way things are going. If you can claim the ability to enact big changes, so can your successor, in the opposite direction or further. A lot of people will be motivated to stop the unwinding of big government from the throat of liberty because they’d lose their sugar daddy. This has to be factored into whatever plan is ultimately put into place, and pursued more relentlessly than its attackers with a passion for justice and freedom, not punishment and retribution. Assuming a burst of constitional adherance will just wake America out of some sort of funk and everything will be peaches and cream from here on out is just circlejerk material.


81 posted on 03/25/2013 6:59:46 PM PDT by jz638
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82 posted on 03/25/2013 7:06:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Paul budget does not cut the budget far enough even though I am happy with it.
Also cut out the E.P.A. and the Department of Home Land Security and send it to the states.
Find other departments and agencies that can co-exsist in the same frame of operations or cut it out totally.
83 posted on 03/25/2013 7:10:35 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: SeekAndFind
" What do you propose to replace the IRS with? "

Easy, less taxes means more jobs, a growing economy.
84 posted on 03/25/2013 7:15:22 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I see that neither senator from Indiana voted for it. Coats and Donnelly, what a pair...................


85 posted on 03/25/2013 7:15:53 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Anything to get rid of the Department of ED! YES!!


86 posted on 03/25/2013 7:17:10 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Longbow1969
If this is actually voted on and passed and the President signs it you will see the largest spurt of growth in this country not since Ronald Reagan administration.
Also the value of the dollar would increase.
87 posted on 03/25/2013 7:18:30 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: SeekAndFind

A reasonable start, how about agriculture, homeland security, and all the rest of the socialist commissions?


88 posted on 03/25/2013 7:20:13 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: NVDave

what are yoiu on about, liberal tarians can have their own party and their own fiscal issues.
They might agree with republicans on certain fiscal issues but they also support a communist agenda like marriage, drugs, and are in more agreement wiht the far left and occupy


89 posted on 03/25/2013 7:20:33 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: PapaNew
Actually ? what the idea of the Department of Energy should have been in the first place should have been some kind of private organisation that worked together with industry and the private sector, also the public to solicite ideas in how our energy should be developed and big government stay out of it.
The Department of Energy should be privatized.
90 posted on 03/25/2013 7:22:36 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Diego1618

that is a dream world.

sounds great but have no idea how to replace it


91 posted on 03/25/2013 7:23:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

Here’s a good video for you... Losertarian Peter Schiff goes to Occupy Wall Street to educate them fools.

He’s a proud member of the 1%.

Enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGL-Ex1CD1c


92 posted on 03/25/2013 7:25:57 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: SeekAndFind

Let the states collect the taxes and what is owed to the Fed government will be pass onto them.


93 posted on 03/25/2013 7:28:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: JohnPDuncan

thanks I will watch it when I get away from here and can open the link.

They have more in common with the radcial left than with us and yet they want it both ways and have the left join them and the right join them


94 posted on 03/25/2013 7:29:20 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Timocrat
" The completely corrupt Bureau of Indian Affairs casinos "

There now, fixed.
95 posted on 03/25/2013 7:30:38 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: jz638
Stretch it out over a 10 year plan instead of a 5 year plan to make it less painful.
Those who do not belong in this country will see that the government feeding troth is close for business and will self deport themselves.
For the rest of us ? yes, it will be painful, and we should not kid ourselves into believing that it's not going to be painful to cut the budget but it has to be done or we will all be done for in a economy that has crashed.
96 posted on 03/25/2013 7:38:28 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ducttape45

” Coats and Donnelly, what a pair “ Dumb and Dumber


97 posted on 03/25/2013 7:40:56 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: manc

Your wrong Manc!! Schiff is trying to educate them. Libertarians (commonly called Losertarians round here) have nothing in common with the left except for maybe a respect for civil liberties and the Bill of Rights.

That’s what Rand’s filibuster was about. He doesn’t want the president labeling someone a ‘terrorist’ and then being able to assassinate them. If the president accuses someone of a crime they should be able to get due process and that means a day in court.


98 posted on 03/25/2013 7:43:33 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

I have to see it but not tonight as I can’t open the link here


99 posted on 03/25/2013 7:46:02 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

The EEOC and the NLRB could go, too.


100 posted on 03/25/2013 7:46:40 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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