Skip to comments.Rand Paulís Budget Kills Departments of Commerce, Education, Housing, and Energy
Posted on 03/25/2013 11:23:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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That's like my comment on Ryan's, since it isnt going anywhere then why not be serious?
Amazing that these GOPs are talking about supporting giving illegals the vote and then throwing out these fantasy budgets, as if their new Dreamer voters would support them.
Notice that Rand did not mention this last week in his 'reach out' speech to that Hispanic group, who he called 'natural conservatives' ????
That’s what I’m talkin’ about. CUT CUT CUT. And start with Government departments FIRST and foremost.
As well, any and all Progressive legislation that is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
Go Rand. I may not agree with him 100% of the time, but he is one true patriot at least TRYING to take back this country from these elitist power hungry a-holes.
“Call your senators: Oh never mind”
I wasn’t sure if your “Oh never mind” was because the vote had already been held or but as I suspect that you didn’t believe they would do the right thing and actually vote for spending cuts and responsibility. They have both discouraged me but especially Senator Cochran.
DOD umbrella: It used to be that way but it got to be a bit troublesome because the Air Force needed most of the bombs but the Navy needed nuke fuel. Splitting the cost of building/maintaining the stuff was where it got awkward. Leaving an agency just to handle nuke material has always been the least cumbersome but I’m with it otherwise. Dump the rest of the DOE and throw in the EPA to make up any difference. Sounds like Rand has made a good start-—getting a 20% positive vote on short notice is a good sign. Now we just have to shame the rest into getting their surgery wherein their cranials are separated from their anals, a condition that developes with over exposure to vitamin K street.
The Department of Commerce was created in 1904 and its main purpose is “to create jobs, promote economic growth, encourage sustainable development and improve standards of living for all Americans.” If it had achieved its stated purposes why the “War on Proverty”, food stamps, etc/ 110 years old and it has failed its stated purpose.
The Department of Education was created in1979 with the stated purpose of improving the education system as measured by college board scores. Does anyone think that the college board scores have improved over the last 30 plus years?
The Department of Housing and Urban Development was founded in 1965 with the expressed purpose “is to create strong, sustainable, inclusive communities and quality affordable homes for all.” If you walk down almost every “Martin Luther King Blvd” in the nation you'll have to wonder where all teh money went supporting the 14 laws issued since its establishment as a Cabinet level organization.
The Department of Energy was expanded of a nuclear centric organization to being the point man for energy independence after the first oil embargo in 1973. Its publically announced purpose was to make the US independent from Middle East Oil. Forty years later how is that going?
None of the four departments listed are Constitutionally mandated functions of the Federal Government. None of them have a record of successfully meeting their mission statements. So what business would continue to pay for failure and expand failing operations? Why should the tax payers continue to pay for institutional/bureaucratic failure?
Is he going to run again? Any thoughts or rumours about who may run aginst him in the primary? I’m sure the field would be larger if he were to retire but at this point I really don’t want him to get it by acclamation.
So he’s an amnesty-promoting loon. He still has a lot of good ideas.
He seems to be immune from all Tea Party fury. The only time I ever saw the guy in an interview was in the Trent Lott/ Strom Thurmond firestorm years ago. He just stays in ths shadows and quietly votes for pork and sometimes a little to the left.
Nothing.........would be a good start!
Let’s be serious, as much as I dislike the IRS, there has to be an entity who collects our taxes ( even with a pure flat tax or a sales tax ).
Taxes? If the fedgove did ONLY what authorized in the Constitution, it could be funded by tariffs. Maybe the states could kick in for the military.
Also the Dept of Agriculture, the national park Service, the National Forest Service and The completely corrupt Bureau of Indian Affairs.
I suppose that before the 16th amendment (Income Tax/1913) was ratified we were all in a quandary as to how the government would collect its tribute? It was actually very simple. They just followed the Constitution.
We should do the same. If there is a more useless, unconstitutional government entity than the IRS I would like someone to point it out to me.
We must get to a balanced budget quickly with the elimination of departments. I would end EPA and OSHA letting the state agencies in those areas take over responsibility.
I don’t know if Paul’s plan is quick enough, but its better than the business as usual politicians plans.
The Port Tariff Authority.
Now all we need to do is cut the enforcement budget of the EPA and we are off to a really go start. As Levin says it is the private sector destruction agency.
Just what I said!! yes indeed. Bring the fedgov back to its mandated constiutitonal duties and it will need very little $.
The problem I have with Paul Ryan and his budgets is that he can never bring himself to name even one govt agency he can bear to shut down.
A BAD Joke
Neither of them voted for it according to post #7. Why are we not surprised?
“Nothing” is good. Abolish the income tax. Abolish the IRS.
Oh, Goody! That’ll pass without a peep from either side of the aisle, LOL!
Yup! Establishing a tax on incomes was probably the dumbest thing....we as a nation....have ever done. Then to compound the stupidity we allowed those nitwits (Congress) to implement withholding.....so we wouldn't feel the pain!
Dumb! Just dumb!
Thanks for posting this list. Those Senators should be considered as a base for the Conservative Party, a new beginning.
The DOE is a piece of crap! I believe it was started back in the Carter administration.... that alone should be enough to kill it, including any so-called national defense components, which can be absorbed by the DOD without any added funding. While we are at it, I wish the entire remaining federal gubmint (State, DOJ, HUD, Commerce, Census, DOD - Pentagon staff), and the Exec branch & the corrupt judicial branch would all be instantly cut & laid off by 50%. And cut salaries across the board by 25% and cap retirement at 30% of the average of last 5 years of gubmint employment for the entire fed gubmint including elected officials, judiciary & POTUS & exec branch. Just cut the hell out of the bloated fed gubmint.
Not a bad start. Which ones are you going to eliminate next year?
Where bold plans like this fall flat for me is the ‘how’, not the ‘what’. There are few if any on this forum who express any support for the department of education, but if you would kill it, what happens to all those programs currently in place for grants and financial aid? What of all the student loans underwritten and outstanding?
Let the looters swing? Yeah, that ain’t going to work when the looters can tie up any reforms with lawsuits and get voted into office the very next election, claiming the reformers are trying to destroy the nation or alternatively unable to prove any results from the ties up reforms.
Weaning the American populace off the government teat is not going to be easy, the judiciary is not on the side of strict constitutionalists, nor is academia, the media, or much of the business world which has developed a codependence to the stability a government ‘in’ gives then. Big reforms need to be done smartly and explained clearly (and often... and tenaciously) and they’ll need to be unwound in the same way they were wound in the first place: with support of congress and approval, sometimes haltingly, of the judical branch.
One of the constitution’s key benefits is that any one administration can’t drastically change the direction of the government quickly. This is also one of it’s key problems if you don’t like the way things are going. If you can claim the ability to enact big changes, so can your successor, in the opposite direction or further. A lot of people will be motivated to stop the unwinding of big government from the throat of liberty because they’d lose their sugar daddy. This has to be factored into whatever plan is ultimately put into place, and pursued more relentlessly than its attackers with a passion for justice and freedom, not punishment and retribution. Assuming a burst of constitional adherance will just wake America out of some sort of funk and everything will be peaches and cream from here on out is just circlejerk material.
I see that neither senator from Indiana voted for it. Coats and Donnelly, what a pair...................
Anything to get rid of the Department of ED! YES!!
A reasonable start, how about agriculture, homeland security, and all the rest of the socialist commissions?
what are yoiu on about, liberal tarians can have their own party and their own fiscal issues.
They might agree with republicans on certain fiscal issues but they also support a communist agenda like marriage, drugs, and are in more agreement wiht the far left and occupy
that is a dream world.
sounds great but have no idea how to replace it
Here’s a good video for you... Losertarian Peter Schiff goes to Occupy Wall Street to educate them fools.
He’s a proud member of the 1%.
Let the states collect the taxes and what is owed to the Fed government will be pass onto them.
thanks I will watch it when I get away from here and can open the link.
They have more in common with the radcial left than with us and yet they want it both ways and have the left join them and the right join them
” Coats and Donnelly, what a pair “ Dumb and Dumber
Your wrong Manc!! Schiff is trying to educate them. Libertarians (commonly called Losertarians round here) have nothing in common with the left except for maybe a respect for civil liberties and the Bill of Rights.
That’s what Rand’s filibuster was about. He doesn’t want the president labeling someone a ‘terrorist’ and then being able to assassinate them. If the president accuses someone of a crime they should be able to get due process and that means a day in court.
I have to see it but not tonight as I can’t open the link here
The EEOC and the NLRB could go, too.