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Indonesian Officials Destroy Church in Front of Worshippers As Muslims Egg Them On
Gateway ^ | March 24, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/24/2013 10:14:29 PM PDT by george76

Indonesian city officials destroyed a Christian church in front of its weeping congregation. Muslims stood around and egged on the destruction.

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Muslim protesters egged on workers and branded the Christians “infidels”.

Dozens in the 100-strong congregation wailed as a digger tore down the brick walls, with worshippers accusing the government of “criminalising our religion”, in a sign of increasing intolerance in the world’s largest Muslim-majority nation.

“My heart is aching and I feel numb watching my church collapse. I went to this church for 11 years,” worshipper Megarenta Sihite, 46, told AFP, wiping away tears as fellow worshippers, dressed in black, hugged each other..

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In Makassar, South Sulawesi, Indonesia, five churches were attacked by vigilantes wielding Molotov cocktails in February

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christian; christianchurch; church; churches; indonesia; muslims

1 posted on 03/24/2013 10:14:30 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Maybe its time for Congress to list countries that do such atrocities as terrorist states and unworthy of interactions with decent people.


2 posted on 03/24/2013 10:26:23 PM PDT by allendale
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To: george76; allendale

king barry will comment on this atrocity in t..4..3..2..1..........oh, never mind.


3 posted on 03/24/2013 11:01:36 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: george76

bookmark.


4 posted on 03/24/2013 11:06:38 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: george76

while I feel for the people this happened to, I also blame them for letting it happen.

Everytime a Muslim wanted something their way, and people in the name of tolerance gave it to them or the government gave it to them, it was a brick in the road to this.

We all better start making noise, and alot of it, or this will be us and very, very soon.


5 posted on 03/24/2013 11:27:28 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike

This is not a matter of tolerance, by complacent christian comradery. So, what are you implying?


6 posted on 03/24/2013 11:48:11 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Shadowstrike

what do you mean? In Indonesia, Christians are dominated in sheer numbers by Moslems. What do you expect them to do?


7 posted on 03/24/2013 11:49:58 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: george76

These are the “good” Muslims.


8 posted on 03/25/2013 1:40:55 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Socialism is slavery)
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To: BinaryBoy

“These are the “good” Muslims.”

How true.

Peaceful muslims are apostates because they are not doing what their Koran instructs them to do.


9 posted on 03/25/2013 2:47:56 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Eagles6

He will probably bus that group of Muslims into the U.S. and have them do the same to churches here.


10 posted on 03/25/2013 3:24:05 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: george76

The Muslims are looking forward to the day when they will behead Christian Americans on our soil.


11 posted on 03/25/2013 3:26:20 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: george76
“My heart is aching and I feel numb watching my church collapse."

It's the building that's collapsing. The church is outside watching the event.

Awful enough, I admit. But if your church is collapsing, you've got bigger problems than just having a building torn down.

(When Jesus said, "Upon this rock I will build My church," He wasn't talking about something with pews and a pulpit.
12 posted on 03/25/2013 3:45:48 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Shadowstrike

well..

when you have two religions:

one that preaches turn the other cheek, while the other preaches kill the infidel..

who do you think is going to win (on Earth at least)?


13 posted on 03/25/2013 5:35:51 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: george76

Just like most debates with lying liberals, we suck at it.

Right off the bat we let the lying liberals define the terms of the debate so there is no possibility of winning.

Is-Slime is at best a hate cult. It does not deserve any of the normal protections offered to a religion.

You do not grant religion status those who continue their 6th century sand monkey belief in a lower than whale crap pedophile scum of the earth fake prophet. allah=all lying lizard a$$ hole.


14 posted on 03/25/2013 5:52:44 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Eagles6

To king barry this was not an atrocity.


15 posted on 03/25/2013 5:54:15 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: george76; All
There seems to be something wrong with the Gateway Pundit link. It says it's connecting to a story on the Straits Times, but is actually connecting to a story in the Jakarta Post about a church being sealed, not a church being torn down. There is also a separate story about churches being threatened with Molotov cocktail attacks.

Links here:

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/03/24/west-jakarta-church-sealed-during-services.html-0

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/02/18/churchgoers-defy-threats-violent-attacks.html

If the Jakarta Post link is correct, the root issue seems to be that the Damai Kristus Catholic Church in Tambora, West Jakarta, lacked a building permit to build its building.

I'm quite aware that denying building permits is a common tactic used to restrict Christian churches in Muslim countries, so building a church without a building permit should not be regarded as a renegade religious group defying the law.

Let's remember that the next time we deal with zoning ordinances and building codes in the United States — things could get bad very quickly if neighbors could use zoning hearings and building code variance hearings to restrict the growth of small churches in residential areas or large churches which, like any other business, create traffic congestion issues.

16 posted on 03/25/2013 9:25:37 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Eagles6
Shhh! It's prayer time.
17 posted on 03/25/2013 9:28:19 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: BinaryBoy

“These are the “good” Muslims.”

They are only good at room temperature.


18 posted on 03/25/2013 10:53:03 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic
Let me straighten you out, O infidel dog!

All you and your fellow infidels need to do is accept Muhammed and you will live in peace. We are the Religion of Peace. Accept Muhammed and live in peace. Refuse, you will know the Peace of the Grave and you will be our slaves in Paradise, like forever, Dude.

Why is it that you infidels cannot understand this wonderful deal. But wait, there's more. Since you will be our slaves in Paradise for all eternity anyway, we might let you live if you keep real quiet, a low profile, surrender your daughters, and of course, pay the dhimmi taxes for the furtherance of the cause of Muhammed, MPBUH (May Peace Be Upon Him).

Get with the program, pork chop.

19 posted on 03/25/2013 12:13:45 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: george76

20 posted on 03/25/2013 2:07:10 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: RedHeeler

I’m not implying anything against the poor Christians who watched their Church destroyed.

What I obviously didn’t get across is that if Christians IN America are not careful, this type of thing will be happening here.

Thought I was making sense there, obviously not.


21 posted on 03/25/2013 8:08:17 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Cronos

It was not always that way, and you know it.

All I mean is that Christians better start fighting back for their Religion or there wont’ be any Christians.

And before someone starts “Jesus preached peace” Yes, he did, but nowhere did he say just let them walk all over you and kill you.

My life, your life, is just as important. Would I die for my beliefs? Yes, I would, but I’d also make sure that the sumbitch who was killing me went with me.

Jesus when he returns, returns as a WARRIOR, and He doesn’t need sheeple.


22 posted on 03/25/2013 8:11:34 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
Who's saying "it is always that way"? Not me, rather you are.

For this specific case of Christians in Indonesia, what I said holds. The Christians are a minority there.

If you want to talk about Christians in the US, fine, but that's a different case, we are a majority here.

If you want to talk about us Christians helping fellow-religionists in Indonesia, then yes, I agree with you

But DON'T blame the Indonesian Christians for "not doing enough"

23 posted on 03/26/2013 12:01:51 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: jsanders2001
He will probably bus that group of Muslims into the U.S. and have them do the same to churches here.

You know, I wish he would?

Bring them to Houston and let them have at it .... starting with First Bapdiss Church in Houston.

It's located right next to two freeways, for the convenience of Texas gun owners.

24 posted on 03/26/2013 12:22:00 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Brown Deer
Interesting pix .... in neither photo was there an American anywhere within 10 yards of Barry, who was surrounded by a sea of Indonesian dignitaries.

Didn't know he already had his statue in Indonesia.

25 posted on 03/26/2013 12:26:08 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Cronos

you keep up with the smart butt attitude and I will blame anybody I want to.

How’s that.

God didn’t say bend over and take it, Indian Christians needed to prepare themselves for a war with Muslims when they accepted Christ.

Christians anywhere they are a minority are getting their butts kicked and all I hear from fellow Christians is that Jesus preached peace. Yes, he did BUT when he returns he wants WARRIORS not Cowards. If you won’t fight now, when Muslims are killing you, then He won’t care that you want to fight when He comes back.


26 posted on 03/26/2013 7:35:09 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike

You seem surprised by this violence. In Indonesia, this has been happening for over 100 yrs., and escalated in the the last 40+ yrs. Obama’s election has further hardened islamic push for sharia law, everywhere they have had a foothold. Including Our United States, for quite awhile, Shadowstrike. The timeline for US Christians being careful, has long past. Prayer without action is wishful thinking. Regardless, timely warnings are always well recieved...may God bless us


27 posted on 03/26/2013 7:36:06 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Cronos; All

meant INDONESIAN not INDIAN.


28 posted on 03/26/2013 7:36:31 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: RedHeeler

No I’m not surprised by it, rather I’m sick of it.


29 posted on 03/26/2013 7:42:23 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
I will blame anybody I want to.

So you will blame rape victims for what happened to them, I guess?

and you will blame abortion victims for what happened to them?

Just as you are blaming Christians in Indonesia who are a tiny minority outnumbered by Moslems, you are blaming them for what is happening to them.

Wonderful....

30 posted on 03/26/2013 7:47:47 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Shadowstrike
Indian Christians needed to prepare themselves for a war with Muslims when they accepted Christ.

Do read the article before commenting -- this is indonesia, not India

31 posted on 03/26/2013 7:48:19 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Shadowstrike
Indian Christians needed to prepare themselves for a war with Muslims when they accepted Christ.

What exactly are you doing in the war against Moslems?

Or helping our indonesian Christian brethren in their war?

32 posted on 03/26/2013 7:48:57 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Shadowstrike

Good. We have a long haul, ahead. It’s good to puke, rest-a-walk, repeat as needed- until the fight. Most of this has been extended skirmish for the last decades/centuries. We are finally coming down to the bite... keep Heart, keep Faith...may God bless us


33 posted on 03/26/2013 8:08:57 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Cronos

you’re intentionally being well, stupid, and it’s a shame.

If you notice, or can actually read I DID correct it from Indian to Indonesian, but it’s little things like that, that obviously escape you.

Nope, don’t blame rape victimes, nope don’t blame abortion victims, but YES, I am actually blaming Christians for weeping instead of fighting.

And if you look up the history of Indonesia, you WILL see that Islam was not always the majority, so in the case I am blaming the minority Christians.

For not fighting back.

Take it anyway you want to, I actually don’t care what you think.


34 posted on 03/26/2013 11:03:17 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Cronos

do read the part where I actually corrected that statement.


35 posted on 03/26/2013 11:04:13 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Cronos

I can ask you the same question...

What are YOU doing?


36 posted on 03/26/2013 11:08:41 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
I had helped out in the Church in India (not indonesia mind) -- and more to the point, I don't criticise victims as you are doing

if you want to criticise Christians in Indonesia for not "standing up" to Moslem, and if you want to criticise Jews for not "standing up to Nazis, then the onus is on you to prove that you do anything else besides sit in your comfy chair and criticise others

37 posted on 03/27/2013 3:40:06 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Shadowstrike

And you are, well, stupid, and it’s a shame.


38 posted on 03/27/2013 3:40:54 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Cronos
I don't criticize TRUE victims, I'm saying DON'T be a victim to begin with.

And, you're in Chile...tell me how it is in a few years when Islam is taking over there.

In at least one instance, yeah I do blame the Jews. When two, TWO German soldiers with guns can get an entire village on a train and NOBODY fights back...well, yeah in that moment you are a sheep.

39 posted on 03/27/2013 7:58:37 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Cronos

that’s the best you can do? I’M stupid?

Sorry my IQ is higher than yours I’ll wager, and I am a realistic person.

God wants fighters against EVIL, and ISLAM is EVIL.

Agree with me, don’t agree with me, that’s your choice, but at least I don’t have my head stuck in the sand.


40 posted on 03/27/2013 8:00:20 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
Shadowstrike: that’s the best you can do? I’M stupid

Ah, realization, the first stage -- next you need to accept that fact.

41 posted on 03/28/2013 3:39:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Cronos

Cronos, I’d tell you to seek medical help, but I fear it’s far to late for you.

Your problem is you don’t, won’t, or just cannot accept truth.

I don’t have that problem. I see not only the Forest, but also the trees, and the you better wake up.


42 posted on 03/28/2013 8:22:31 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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