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Baby Antonio West's killers captured
AP through El Nuevo Dia ^ | 3/22/2013

Posted on 03/22/2013 1:53:28 PM PDT by cll

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To: kabumpo

So then what box do you think he checked on his census form???
Black, white, or hispanic???


81 posted on 03/23/2013 10:01:12 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

No idea. Especially since, as I just explained, the word Hispanic has no meaning whatsoever in terms of race. It’s laughable. You should hear black ”Hispanics” commenting about black Americans as ”los negros” and ”monkeys” as if they themselves are not black.


82 posted on 03/23/2013 10:12:30 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Based upon the following definition of Hispanic from Wikipedia would it be fair to say that Luis Santiago, the boys father, is Hispanic:

Hispanic (Spanish: hispano, hispánico; Portuguese: hispânico, hispano, Catalan: hispà, hispànic)[1][2] is an ethnonym that denotes a relationship to Spain or, in some definitions, to ancient Hispania, which comprised the Iberian Peninsula including the modern states of Andorra, Portugal, and Spain and the British Crown Dependency of Gibraltar.

Today, organizations in the United States use the term to refer to persons with a historical and cultural relationship either with Spain and Portugal or only with Spain, regardless of race.[3][4] However, in the eyes of the US Census Bureau, Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, or any country of origin.[5][6]

The term is more broadly used to refer to the culture, peoples, or nations with a historical link to Spain, especially those countries which were once colonized by Spain, particularly the countries of Latin America which were colonized by Spain.

The Hispanic culture is a set of customs, traditions, beliefs and art forms (music, literature, dress, architecture, cuisine or others) which are generally shared by peoples in Hispanic regions, but which can vary considerably from one country or territory to another. The Spanish and Portuguese cultures are the main cultural element shared by Hispanic peoples.[3][4]


83 posted on 03/23/2013 10:34:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Ego is a stubborn force. Rather than concede to a more informed source, you resort to a ridiculous wiki article - but even that makes my point for me. There is no racial or even ethnic identity conveyed by the word Hispanic - it refers broadly to people of Iberian descent throughout the former Spanish empire, and also includes the full-blooded indiginous Indian tribes of South America, some of whom speak Spanish now, as well as full blooded Africans descended from the slaves brought to the former Spanish empire.
For the third time: therefore, calling someone Hispanic is utterly meaningless as a racial or ethnic designation, because it could mean any of the above, and/or any of the above in combination with Iberians.
From looking at the photo of the child, I draw the conclusion that the father has mixed blood, with at least one mulato grandparent.


84 posted on 03/23/2013 12:13:56 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

Have you looked at the father —

What does he look like???

And the name “Santiago” — what does that sound like??


85 posted on 03/23/2013 12:21:53 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

And your point is?

My family’s surname is Hispanic. We are considered “Caucasion” when we check the race form. Hispanic is not a race by government standards.

What difference does it make? If we were purple, it doesn’t mean we deserve to have out babies shot in the face in the street. NOBODY, and this includes all races, cultures, and creeds should have to live in fear of being gunned down in the streets by feral thugs.


86 posted on 03/23/2013 12:52:11 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: publana

Take up your argument with wikipedia. Black and white are not races either.


87 posted on 03/23/2013 12:56:55 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

What is the matter with you - do you lack reading comprehension?
I have not seen photographs of the father. His last name suggests nothing other than that an ancestor was Iberian. He could be any of the.varieties of AfroCaribbean - negro, mulato, mulato claro, mulato-chino, blanco capiro, jabado, etc. from Puerto Rico, Cuba, the D.R. or Venezuela; he could be a Spanish immigrant, he could have been born in Argentina as the great-grandson of a Spaniard and have had a mother of German descent, he could be half-Indian from Ecuador or Guatamala, Honduras,.Mexico,.El Salvador or Peru....he could be a Chicano. The last name in of itself does not inform his racial make up. I know several people with the same Spanish last name who are of different races and from different countries.


88 posted on 03/23/2013 1:22:25 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

So then when can I use the word “Hispanic”???


89 posted on 03/23/2013 1:28:12 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Now we are getting somewhere. You may of course use whatever word you like whenever you like. But, as I have thoroughly demonstrated, it is a bogus word created by the left to market the idea of an underprivileged constituency. It has no application to race, ethnicity, culture, food or music. Mostly it is used by bureaucrats committing fraud and by Latin Americans in the US who are of mixed blood - i.e., brown-skinned as a way to avoid being classified as Negro. This is especially true of AfroCaribbeans who are Negro.


90 posted on 03/23/2013 2:24:57 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Uncle Chip

Oh wow, I replied to this 2 days ago and it apparently didn’t post.

Don’t misunderstand me, I still don’t think she’s telling the truth. Something is amiss here...

Freepers can flame me for saying it all day long, I don’t give a rip.... Something ain’t right...

I haven’t even watched any of her interviews, but I will, and then I’ll feel more confident one way or the other. I am a pretty good judge of people and a decent body language reader. I wonder of there are any expert freepers who could read her body language and tell us. That’d be interesting...


91 posted on 03/24/2013 11:41:38 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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ooops, sorry about link, didn’t realize implications.


92 posted on 03/25/2013 12:42:47 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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