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I tried to read through your previous very long post.

But I stopped when you said current laws must be enforced.
Exactly how do you propose to get Obama and his justice department chief Holder to do that? Stop hallucinating and face reality. They are not going to do it, EVER!!!!

If you can’t get that through your head, ther eis no point debating with you.

The only purpose why Rand Paul is proposing his proposal is to mollify the Hispanic voters. May be...just may be that will reduce the 70%:30% ratio down a couple of points. Rand absolves the forced deportation but offers zero on the time schedule how fast the illegals can acquire citizenship. Read my previous posts again and I have explained it all.

I will bet you never went through the process of immigration. You never dealt with ICE or INS as it was called during my days. I have first hand experience on how the whole process works since I arrived on a student visa. I finished my degree, found a job in my field, and my employer sponsored me for the Green card.

On the point of 2 million criminal illegals you claim to have, simple 2nd grade math will tell you 2 million is easier to deal with than 12 to 30 million illegals. Even better is the fact that when an illegal is given a work visa, their background will be checked. And they will be given a “Yellow” card called work visa. The criminal illegals won’t have that yellow card and they will be much easier to segregate.

No system is going to be perfect. But please get off your dream horse expecting “current laws to be enforced”. What the heck do you think Obama/Holder did to Arizona when that state tried to duplicate federal laws and enforce them? They sued the state of Arizona!

I am really sick and tired of people like you keep saying this SHOULD BE DONE AND THAT LAW SHOULD BE DONE. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are electing people with left wing agenda. They are winning elections because of people like you.

But I stopped when you said current laws must be enforced. Exactly how do you propose to get Obama and his justice department chief Holder to do that? Stop hallucinating and face reality. They are not going to do it, EVER!!!!

Then why is Rand Paul offering an amnesty for the 12 to 20 million lawbreakers? Unless you secure the border and enforce existing laws you will have more lawbreakers entering the country for a third amnesty.

If that is his motive then he is stupider than I thought. It is like the factory owner when told he was losing a nickle a widget, he responded that he would make it up in volume. By 2050 one in three in this country will be Hispanic. What difference is it if they vote 70-30 or 68-32.

I have actually issued visas including student and immigrant visas during my 28 years as a Foreign Service Officer. My wife is an immigrant. It is one of the reasons that I am part of a grassroots immigration organization that lobbies on the Hill and in Richmond.

Yeah the criminals will cooperate in identifying themselves. They just won't register and if we can't enforce our laws as you mentioned, then why would they register? Under the Rand plan just as it was under the McCain-Kennedy bill, every illegal will immediately have their status legalized thru probationary or temporary visas and the the background checks will be done latter. Under McCain-Kennedy it was the infamous Z visa. This is all crap. Legalization first and enforcement latter just as was the case in 1986.

I am very familiar with that case as well as the case that upheld AZ's mandatory e-verify system. Our group demonstrated in front of the Supreme Court during the hearing. SCOTUS did not throw SB1070 out entirely. We can still stop and check immigration status. The real locus for the enforcement of our immigration laws is at the state level. We are having much more success there.

You are an idiot. Clearly, you don't understand this country and the vision of our Founders. Get better informed. The Left is winning elections because they have used immigration to change the demography of this country. Demography is destiny.