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Cyprus parliament rejects haircut bill
ekathimerini.com ^ | March 19, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 03/19/2013 11:40:40 AM PDT by abb

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To: Longbow1969

Because I’m against Germany’s designs on smaller European countries?


51 posted on 03/19/2013 1:30:36 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: abb

the haircut being rejected, now the German barber will keep his money and not make additional loans to subsidize the Cypriots


52 posted on 03/19/2013 1:30:48 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

Actually Cyprus is an independent country and NOT a part of NATO.


53 posted on 03/19/2013 1:31:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SevenofNine

That’s OK.

If there were two historic empires I could’ve visited, it would’ve been the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire. With the Russians, during the reign of Peter the Great, and with the Ottomans, Suleiman the Magnificent. The zenith of both empires, and I have no doubt it would’ve been fascinating.

In regards to Cyprus, I think they’re gambling that Russia will offer them a better deal but as with any deal, the devil’s in the details. I’d be wary of making a deal with the Russians - or the Turks for that matter - as any deal you strike with both of them would benefit them enormously, and you......not so much.

Most likely, the Cypriots will be back in front of the EU in a week, begging bowl in hand, especially once Bank of Cyprus and Laika Bank are declared insolvent.

That should happen about 20 minutes after they open.


54 posted on 03/19/2013 1:33:07 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

It will be interesting to see what Russia offers, especially once they think Assad is toast, and their base at Tartus, is in jeopardy.


55 posted on 03/19/2013 1:35:15 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

That would be highly interesting.

If the Cypriots miscalculated on this, and the Russians don’t step up - for whatever reason - I see them frantically flying to Brussels, and hoping that the deal is still on the table.


56 posted on 03/19/2013 1:40:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: dfwgator
Turkey worked very hard to get into NATO and getting its claim on part of Cyprus was part of the bargain

I doubt they or the rest of the NATO alliance would countenance a Russian base on a NATO member's soil
There is no strategic sense at all to that for anyone

NATO membership is looking pretty useful to Turkey about now, given the deterioration of Syria and Iran's future ICBMs

Now, a deal between Cyprus and Russia for the sale ...... err, “development” .... of Cyprus’ supposed offshore natural gas fields - is potential Russian domination of the Central Med by another means

57 posted on 03/19/2013 1:41:42 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: dfwgator

yeah they are independent of Turkey and Greece- right


58 posted on 03/19/2013 1:43:31 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

But very few countries actually recognize Turkish claims on the island. I would be surprised if NATO would, seeing as how Greece, in particular wouldn’t care for it.


59 posted on 03/19/2013 1:44:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: silverleaf

Greece, yes. And nobody recognizes “North Cyprus”, other than the Turks.


60 posted on 03/19/2013 1:44:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: abb

It’s not an EFFIN’ “haircut”. It is despotic theft. And similar actions are forthcoming until there is serious resistance that *forces* it to stop.

This is why the framers of the Constitution included the 2nd amendment.


61 posted on 03/19/2013 1:52:58 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: dfwgator

well, since the Brits have a base on the southern end of Cyprus with 3000 troops stationed, I would guess you strategists would expect Russia to build its conjectured “military base” in the Turkish enclave

Like this all fits together

all Russia has wanted from Cyprus is a “safe” place for the new money (old KGB and mafia) to park its money. I doubt the conjecture the Russians are manuevering the EU/Germans into changing the terms of their offshore banking arrangement. If Putin knew this was coming, the Russian money in Cyprus banks would have been gone last week


62 posted on 03/19/2013 1:57:25 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

There’s a Russian presence in the TRNC, albeit a civilian one. The Turks there grumble about “Russian gangsters and their Natasha’s” or “Russian mafiosi and their peroxide molls.”

I don’t think Putin knew this was coming, or as you said, the money would’ve been gone sometime last week. There were rumors last week, however, that something like this was in the works, so it’s possible some far-sighted Russians got their money out of their and moved it to London, Frankfurt, etc.


63 posted on 03/19/2013 2:06:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: what's up

>>>The “ex”-KGB agent who stole the election and continues on as Dictator is protecting his people?<<<

I know you said this of Putin but there’s some people who would say exactly the same thing about Obama.


64 posted on 03/19/2013 2:11:56 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: silverleaf

A little bird just whispered into my ear that all banks are to remain closed until Tuesday, March 26th.

Little bird being a friend/former student in Famagusta, TRNC who works in the banking sector.

She’s heard it through the financial grapevine, but she cannot guarantee its accuracy.


65 posted on 03/19/2013 2:49:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad; SevenofNine; dfwgator
""Actually, Cyprus was never under the Russian Empire.""

"You might be thinking of the Ottoman Empire."

Actually, you might be thinking of the British Empire
66 posted on 03/19/2013 2:55:31 PM PDT by Allan (*-O)):~{>)
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To: Allan

It was both. And let’s forget the Venetian Empire as well.

And the Roman Empire and the Byzantines as well.

Busy little island. :)


67 posted on 03/19/2013 3:02:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Allan

Oops. Make that “let’s not forget the Venetian Empire”, though they were rather forgettable.


68 posted on 03/19/2013 3:03:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: MeganC

Yes left wing politicians do not inspire confidence in the electoral process...both are scum.


69 posted on 03/19/2013 3:19:14 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Because I’m against Germany’s designs on smaller European countries?

The problem is much more with the voters in Cyprus, along with the rest of the smaller European countries, than it is with whatever utopian (and self serving) fantasies the Germans may have about the EU.

This is a simple people problem, it's not some nefarious conspiracy. People are electing/supporting big social welfare government and they are going broke and being taken advantage of by creditors. Simple as that. If Cyprus hadn't run up a huge debt from financing a massive public sector, they wouldn't be going to Germany begging for handouts. It's no different from a person who runs up high credit card debt and turns to shady creditors avoid going bust (but only delaying the inevitable).

70 posted on 03/19/2013 3:39:11 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Not to mention:
the ancient Egyptians
the Greeks and Macedonians under Alexander
Richard the Lionheart of England
the Knights Templar
the French under Guy de Lusignan
and Genova.


71 posted on 03/19/2013 4:16:10 PM PDT by Allan (*-O)):~{>)
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To: dfwgator
“s/b to build a Navy base in Cyprus.”

I would think Putin would also be interested in developing the natural gas reserves in the area. Cyprus would put the Russians pretty close to the large gas fields the Israeli's have next door

72 posted on 03/19/2013 4:24:59 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: Polynikes

That gas field is why I suspect the Russians and the Israelis are about to become bosom buddies.


73 posted on 03/19/2013 4:28:14 PM PDT by Publius
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To: abb

Good. Tell the Eurocrats to go hang themselves.


74 posted on 03/19/2013 4:35:34 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Allan

LOL. The crossroads of empires.

It is what makes Cyprus such an interesting place to visit. We’re talking history going way, waaaaay back.

And the weather and the people. Though I would say on the Northern side, the Turkish Cypriots are a damned sight more agreeable than the “settlers”, most of whom are a rather sullen lot.


75 posted on 03/19/2013 5:01:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: MrB

Well, that’s true. lol I’m ready to do that now (or at least escorting them out, tar & feathers optional).


76 posted on 03/20/2013 1:13:35 AM PDT by KGeorge
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

ouch, that’s got to leave a mark on people who need cash!
An interesting lesson for us to be prepared, sad times for the people of Cyprus :-(


77 posted on 03/20/2013 4:32:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: abb

They’re blaming the Eurozone in a political ploy to deflect responsibility.


78 posted on 03/20/2013 4:33:56 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: dfwgator

Has anyone said definitively when the banks will reopen? Or if they will?


79 posted on 03/20/2013 4:43:36 AM PDT by abb
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

When we gave Cyprus its independence in 1960, we kept two bases:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Cyprus_Bases


80 posted on 03/20/2013 6:19:07 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Yes the character of the KKTC has changed dramatically during the last few years. The Cypriot Turks, Europeanized and highly secular, now are greatly outnumbered by the settlers, most of whom were peasants from Eastern Turkey, with large numbers of Kurds. Tensions are growing.


81 posted on 03/20/2013 12:43:44 PM PDT by Allan (*-O)):~{>)
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