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Even If Your Child Is Gay...
Townhall.com ^ | March 19, 2013 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 03/19/2013 6:18:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: goldstategop

If they are your standards, you should be able to do anything with them, shouldn’t you?


21 posted on 03/19/2013 6:49:35 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: OldNavyVet

For this reason, God gave them over...


22 posted on 03/19/2013 6:49:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: crusty old prospector

That’s just dumb. Can’t you think for yourself? Just because you may have a change of heart on one thing, certainly doesn’t mean you have a change of heart on everything, does it?


23 posted on 03/19/2013 6:51:15 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: reegs

> IMHO, Portman is feeling guilty for not being there for his son and is partly to blame for his son’s same sex attraction. Now he’s trying to make good.

I think you make a good point there.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 6:53:25 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

Last week, Republican Senator Rob Portman of Ohio announced that he had reversed his position on same-sex marriage. The reason was that his son had come out to him and his wife as gay.


Let me reword that to give it some perspective:

Last week, Republican Senator Rob Portman of Ohio announced that he had reversed his position on Murder. The reason was that his son had come out to him and his wife as a murderer.

We had concerns that one of my daughters was being influenced by her homosexual friends to become one. She even lived with her female college basketball coach and the coaches femal lover. And she roomed with a homosexual girl that had a crush on her during her last years at the university.

Interestingly, she rebelled against it. In fact, she and I were discussing the “it gets better” videos on you tube and her response was, “no it doesn’t”. This comes from her several years of dealing with these people and their personalities and lifestyles and discovering that the whole thing is seriously, as one might say, f***ed up.

However, coming to grips with what I was seeing, I never changed my position on homosexuality. In fact, it strengthened it. And my position is summed up in my rewording of the original statement above.


25 posted on 03/19/2013 6:53:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

They are sexual predators....It’s the only way they can keep their numbers up.


26 posted on 03/19/2013 6:59:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: duckworth

Fags have us so snowed, it isn’t funny. They make up less than three percent of the population, but they practically own pop culture, and have people, even rational, reasonable people, thinking that they’re 20% of the population.


27 posted on 03/19/2013 7:01:12 AM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Sacajaweau

We are all born sinners. Different people have different pet sins. Alcoholics, pedophiles, compulsive firestarters (pyromaniacs), nymphomaniacs, etc., etc. will all tell you they were born that way. That doesn’t make it right or acceptable to act out on those compulsive urges.


28 posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:05 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

If my son was a druggie I wouldn’t want free drugs for druggies, if he was an alcoholic I wouldn’t want free booze for alcoholics.

While I would hate for my son to be homosexual I would still love him but I wouldn’t encourage him and I wouldn’t accept that it was normal and try to make it appear to be normal.


29 posted on 03/19/2013 7:07:50 AM PDT by tiki
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To: AppyPappy

“his environment caused him to be gay,”

Exactly! The environment where another male has his _ _ _ _ up his _ _ _ or in his mouth. First one orifice then the other.

The environment at roadside rest stop bathrooms.

It’s about the erotic perverse SEX! (the “turn on”), it’s not about a normal alternative lifestyle. It’s ABNORMAL. NOT “normal”. It’s a learned behavior. It’s a CHOICE. Is the perpetrator of a rape making a choice or was he born that way? Born a rapist? You say “nonsense”, but being born gay is so believable. Homosexuals are making a choice to sin. That _ _ _ _ didn’t “fall” into your mouth or _ _ _. You put it there or allowed theirs to be. DISGUSTING! And then you kiss your mother.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 7:09:18 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: tiki

Great points on all, especially that you would still love him


31 posted on 03/19/2013 7:14:47 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I doubt it’s the same to a homosexual...you still have a wife to fulfill those needs even if you are attracted to another woman.


32 posted on 03/19/2013 7:18:12 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Kaslin

Clearly, homosexuality is a perverse CHOICE made by bad people who are attracted to evil. It is the same Satanic impulse that leads people to support Obamacare or other social “welfare” programs. The goal always is the destruction of Christian society. If we are to survive, we need to be true to GOD’S LAW and deal with evil, homosexual perverts in the way God’s word commands us.


33 posted on 03/19/2013 7:19:20 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: stuartcr
I see no reason why a homosexual inclined man couldn't just find a very manly woman to marry. Or that a lesbian couldn't find a very feminine man, heck! I hear Ryan Seacreast is available!
34 posted on 03/19/2013 7:21:04 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Kaslin
I thought Dennis had better sense than write a piece like this.

Is he ignorant enough to really believe no society ever considered normalization of homosexuality before the 21st century? There is ancient and medieval history that says otherwise.

He writes, "It is either right to maintain the man-woman definition of our most important social institution, or is it not. We cannot base our decision on compassion for gays, whether the gay is our child, our sibling, our friend or anyone else."

Yet he concedes changes in civil marriage have happened regard to race, number and even age but never explains why those were rational, conservative changes. After all those represented changes from tradition. In fact earlier he suggests they may not have been when he says it was done out of progressive claims of fairness. He sabotages his own argument.

Marriage is horribly broken as a social institution and we are wasting far too much time on the gays and spending NO TIME on why the failure rate is so high which is a far more destructive to progeny and societal cohesion than whether a same sex partner can draw on the others Social Security.

As a society, we've just accepted how fractured heterosexual marriage is now and stood idly by as the baby mama / baby daddy culture took root. More people trying to get into committed, legally sanctioned relationships? Bad. Evil. Satan worshipping. People making a mess of their lives and their children's lives? The OK, new normal.

35 posted on 03/19/2013 7:22:55 AM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: faucetman

You oversimplify. Most of the gays I know are drama queens and attention whores. It’s less about sex and more about playing the victim.


36 posted on 03/19/2013 7:24:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

It’s no wonder they are always so unhappy. I wish I had a dime for every gay person I know that threatens suicide. They treat it like a Valium.


37 posted on 03/19/2013 7:26:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: stuartcr
I doubt it’s the same to a homosexual...you still have a wife to fulfill those needs even if you are attracted to another woman.

You must be one of those morally ambivalent libertarians.

Homosexual sex is self destructive societally and individually.

38 posted on 03/19/2013 7:29:55 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: goldstategop
If my child came to me and said that he was gay, I'd still love him just the same. But, I'd always wonder what it was that I did wrong, or what I could/should have done differently.

Saying, "Meh, I changed my mind." spares Portman that difficult phase of introspection.

39 posted on 03/19/2013 7:31:48 AM PDT by wbill
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To: DBeers

I agree, but I just don’t think a homosexual sees it like a heterosexual does.


40 posted on 03/19/2013 7:35:49 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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