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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Look at the presuppositions (not science) in the question. The presupposition is that what they say is science is and any other is untrue. The presupposition is that only in science can one find truth. The inference is that any other than the cult of science is not to be believed. Science, after all, is the new keeper of the culture.

Science is the the laborious effort to discover an order imposed upon this universe. Truth is absolute, unchanging regardless of location, exclusive, and narrow.

Science is not without its own faith. Science presupposes philosophy and is a slave to it. Science declares it as the arbiter of reason but cannot account for science. The materialist declares a world of matter, energy,time, and space. There is, in their mind, no other. Yet logic, rational thought, and reason must not exist in the materialist world. Neither consciousness, mind, vice, or virtue can exist. Scientific method itself, cannot be accounted for by the scientific materialist because there is no scientific method to prove scientific method. So, objective truth claims cannot be verified as scientific truths. So when scientific materialists claim the truth they must do so without reason or logic to be consistent-because reason itself is impossible in a world goverened by chemical and physical forces.

34 posted on 03/18/2013 6:43:38 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: Texas Songwriter

Science and and the rules for scientific method are designed for answering the question “how”. They are not suited for answering “why”. Science is about process, and how to get from one configuration of matter and energy in space-time to another configuration of matter and energy in space-time, all of which is subject to measurement.

Philosophy is for answering the “why”. It is about purpose, which cannot be derived logically from process. Purpose is not something that can be measured or quantified.

A person needs both science and philosophy. We too often see scientists with doctorates in their fields making moral pronouncements, which is a subject that is totally outside their fields. This is the same pride that makes actors experts in Congressional hearings. It is an effect of pride as old as Socrates.


37 posted on 03/18/2013 7:10:31 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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