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Why Do People Believe Scientifically Untrue Things? Because to do otherwise would be immoral.
Reason ^ | March 15, 2013 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 03/18/2013 4:06:40 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: whattajoke

> “I don’t really know any atheists or scientists who would
> use the phrase “atheistic evolutionist.”

Perhaps you need to get out more.

> Are you being poetic is factually historic here?

See if you can figure it out.


61 posted on 03/19/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook
Perhaps you need to get out more.

Or you should stop buying into the creationist nonsense so much. I accept the fact of evolution, but I would never call or define myself as an "evolutionist." No one would - other than creationists trying to make stuff up. "Evolutionary biologist" (which I am not) certainly, but not "evolutionist." Not as bad as "evolutionism" which is just silly, but certainly not in usage among scientists.

See if you can figure it out.

I've never been able to figure out the symbolic vs. factual WRT the bible. Plenty of people have "met" Jesus and plenty feel they have actually "met" a man called Jesus. I have no idea which camp you're in.
62 posted on 03/19/2013 12:10:26 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke
“Your anger won’t help your cause. Neither will confusing localized point-in-time weather events with global climate over large swaths of time.”

Oh, I ain’t angry. I’m just a tired ole bitter crackpot who wants scientist's feet held to the fire. A lot us non-brainy folks aren’t bookworms, but we can smell carp when it stinks.

And I don’t confuse integral math in the physical world either. Local point-in-time weather events as you call it are a slice of the overall global weather timeline. The one the global warming nazis love to ignore. Physics 101. Hell, it’s been over 50 years since I took a class, but the ole noggen still works pretty good.

63 posted on 03/19/2013 12:35:35 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: whattajoke

> Or you should stop buying into the creationist nonsense so much.

What is nonsense to you makes sense to me. What makes sense to you does not make sense to me, though there was once a time when it did.

> I’ve never been able to figure out the symbolic vs.
> factual WRT the bible.

It may be because you haven’t met the Author yet.
:)
Seriously, though, some passages are more difficult to parse than others. I once asked a wise preacher about the meaning of a certain somewhat obscure passage. His response was, “Are you going to live that today?” I replied by asking, “How can I live it if I don’t even know what it means?” He said, “There are a lot of passages whose meaning is clear. Focus on living those in your life, and perhaps God will reveal the meaning of the more difficult passages to you.”

> Plenty of people have “met” Jesus and plenty feel they have
> actually “met” a man called Jesus. I have no idea which
> camp you’re in.

It is my sincere hope that you come to know Him as I have.


64 posted on 03/19/2013 1:25:20 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Graewoulf

Thanks Graewoulf.


65 posted on 03/19/2013 4:32:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (IOW, Ron, Rand, and Pat are all in Obama's corner.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem for the topic, and thanks Graewoulf for the comments and ping.
Skeptic editor Michael Shermer... whose political views lean toward libertarianism, wrote a column for Scientific American titled "The Liberal War on Science," noting the left’s tendency to deny human cognitive evolution and the safety of biotech crops and nuclear power. [Mother Jones writer Chris] Mooney, author of a book called The Republican War on Science, retorted with a story headlined "There is No Such Thing as a Liberal War on Science." The right’s denial of evolutionary biology and man-made global warming, Mooney argued, are much more consequential for public policy. While acknowledging that a substantial percentage of Democrats don’t believe in human evolution or man-made global warming either, Mooney took comfort in the fact that “considerably fewer Democrats than Republicans get the science wrong on these issues.”
Shermer's an AGW nutter, and the absolute last thing he is is a libertarian. Mooney's just a piece of leftist trash. Both are atheists. The only way I'd want to meet either one of them is by pissing on their graves. I hope it's soon.


66 posted on 03/19/2013 4:32:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Traveler59

Excellent.


67 posted on 03/19/2013 4:58:04 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: neverdem
Why Do People Believe Scientifically Untrue Things?

Because they can't read their own diplomas.

Plus they spend all their time watching sports, moronic network TV, driving while texting, eyes focused on some electronic device that an actual intelligent person created, or playing violent video games.

68 posted on 03/19/2013 5:22:29 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: neverdem
Climate change: The majority of climate scientists believe that human activity is causing the earth’s temperatures to increase. A recent Pew Research poll found that two-thirds of Americans also believe that the earth is warming. But a deep partisan divide yawns between conservatives and liberals on the cause of the warming: Only 16 percent of conservative Republicans believe that human activity is responsible, whereas 77 percent of liberal Democrats do. Moderate Republicans and Democrats accept human responsibility by 38 and 51 percent, respectively. Advantage: Democrats.

Sorry, but that's idiotic, it assumes that being in a majority makes these losers right... There is clear evidence that warming STOPPED around 10 - 12 years ago. There is also clear evidence that any warming which there ever was, was caused by the sun and not man.

69 posted on 03/20/2013 5:10:00 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: TigersEye; Jane Long

A FYI PING!


70 posted on 03/20/2013 1:43:06 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

I was going to call my new discipline ‘science’ but I see that name is being used for a bait and switch scam to steal barge loads of cash from taxpayers. ;^)


71 posted on 03/20/2013 1:49:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: whattajoke

RE: “Wake me up when the “real conservative” party line stops being so ignorant.”

Bravo. Best line I’ve read on here in a long damn time.


72 posted on 03/20/2013 2:36:22 PM PDT by Eddeche
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To: the_Watchman

My experience with scientists in college was that they staked out a position, got tenure and then spent the rest of their lives defending their original position no matter what the facts said.


73 posted on 03/25/2013 7:06:50 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

That reminds me of an assertion by theologian Dr. Wayne Grudem about his opinion on a particular Biblical issue that came up during his systematic theology lectures. Before he dealt with the topic he pointed out that he had done his doctoral thesis on that particular subject. This meant that he was not necessarily right, but simply that you would not be able to change his mind. :)


74 posted on 03/25/2013 8:18:53 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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