Skip to comments.Rove Fires Back after Palinís Blistering CPAC Speech
Posted on 03/17/2013 7:25:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Karl Rove sought to turn the tables Sunday on Sarah Palin, jabbing her for stepping down early as Alaska governor, a day after she blistered the GOP consultant in a speech at CPAC.
Palin launched a broadside against the GOP establishment on Saturday at the gathering of conservatives, but directed her sharpest aim at Rove, reports Huffington Post.
“If these experts who keep losing elections and keep getting rehired and getting millions — if they feel that strong about who gets to run in this party, then they should buck-up or stay in the truck,” Palin told CPAC Saturday, according to the publication. “The Architect can head on back to the great Lone Star State and put their name on some ballot — though for their sakes, I hope they give themselves a discount on their consulting services.”
Rove, who was nicknamed “The Architect” by President George W. Bush, pushed back against Palin on Fox News, said the publication.
“I appreciate encouragement I ought to go home to Texas and run for office and, it would be news if I did to have her support. But I don’t think I’m a good candidate — a kind of balding, fat guy,” Rove said, as reported by Huffington Post. “And second, if I did run for office and win, I would serve out my term and I wouldn't leave office midterm.”
Palin resigned as governor in 2009, halfway through her first term in office.
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She left 2/3rds of the way through, not mid-term, Einstein.
I’d leave too if my family were being bankrupted.
Would that fat Quisling bastard please go away?
Someone should ask Tokyo Rove why he dropped out of college and never got a degree.
Rove and Romney were behind the attacks on Gov. Palin
that made her protect her family and Alaska by leaving.
Rove is nothing but a backstabber of Republican women
whom he calls ‘witches’.
Rove does have a point about Palin’s abandoning her office. I’ve heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasn’t made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step.
Don’t let the PDS brigade hear you say that, they ain’t buyin’ it! They’d have stuck it out! Just ask ‘em....
“Rove and Romney were behind the attacks on Gov. Palin
that made her protect her family and Alaska by leaving.”
Can you substantiate your comment?
The fat little nerd wasn’t around enough girls at Olympus High in Salt Lake County, to learn how to deal with them.
And teams of lawyers dumpster diving all her old office parking lots, death threats, rumors fabricated, and stalkers moving in next door.....and this is just the stuff we heard about.
Can’t we all just get along????
If he was so concerned about her being forced from office maybe Turd Blossom could have contributed some funds to help pay her family’s staggering legal bills that stemmed from the couple dozen frivolous, and in toto refuted, ethics suits. He could afford it. Rove is a leech on the a** of the Republican Party.
Funny coming from Rove, didn’t he quit his job a few years ago(Read about his history in an earlier thread but forgot the specifics) you know what liberals hate the most, to be mocked..they can’t stand it..and Sarah got under Rove’s skin(Which is hard enough considering what a fat lump of turd he is) poor Rove got his feelings hurt, awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I used to like and respect the man, but now he is nothing but a pig.
But if one defines success as failure, then Rince Priebus is the top man for the job.
Also, I would just like to add that this man has the most annoying and obnoxious name that I have ever seen in my life.
Go back to the Whig Table Karl and let the Big Girls talk for a while okay!?
Just who, exactly, is Karl Rove,
and why, exactly, should I give a flying feces
what thoughts might occasionally pass through his brain?
I mean, really.
Tokyo Rove has mommy issues and gay issues. Ask his 2 ex wives. His mom never married his real daddy and killed herself. His stepfather who raised him was gay. Rove’s a conflicted one who really needs to seek therapy and get over his misogyny.
So, does that make you the king of substantiation? I suppose you are the same type that believes that we never made it to the moon, just because you were never there. Or maybe that the sinking of the Titanic was just a fable until they actually found the ship.
What is the practical difference, Einstein?
Splitting hairs on a calendar does not advance the cause of quitters and conservatism, get over it.
Are you living under a rock..Huffington Post is missing you.
how about the stories of several “ethics” lawsuites filed against her and her husband,by democrat activists, all thrown out but she had to pay for all legal work - by Alaska state law. At the time she resigned her legal bills where said to be over 300K.
Yeah, you are POS dad if you let your kids get skewered for a job.
I used to respect Rove. Not any longer.
Telling Rove to go back to Texas? Touché. Barbara Bush told her to go back to Alaska.
Then, in all honesty, you weren't paying attention.
Under Alaskan state law, the governor is vulnerable to certain legal actions -- but the state could not involve itself in the governor's defense. A number of frivolous suits had been brought, accordingly.
As a private citizen, she had access to the protection of libel laws and could set up a legal defense fund.
Remaining the governor would have driven the Palins into bankruptcy and, at the same time, handcuffed the state's policy machinery.
More on Palins Resignation
Still no leads in Wasilla church arson (Sara Palins Church)
Lets get something straight, Sarah Palin did NOT “quit”
I have no idea why this man is still on the political landscape. Or the Clintons, or any of these people whose time is up. When your term is over, or your man or woman is no longer in office, get a real job, move on, retire, go fishing.
I would not expect an objective conversation from vette6387. Not sure he/she is interested in the facts.
None of what you posted is “new” news! The idea that the RATs could “drive her from the governor’s office” really doesn’t fly with me. I can’t imagine that someone with her charisma and bona fides couldn’t put together a PAC or find enough money to deal with these people is nonsense. If today, you can, use FOIA to drive a politician out of his or her office, why isn’t it being done wholesale around the country? One of the @$$holes that was bothering her was some school teacher, I mean come on! I am sure people tried this tactic on Ronald Reagan and other conservatives. How come she’s the only one who has had to fold her tent? Don’t misunderstand me, I like Sarah. She made McLame almost bearable as a candidate, but if she’s going to be effective, she can’t cut and run at the first sign of trouble which is what she did. I personally think she saw the path she took led to a bunch of money and took it!
Who are you talking about the Architecturally over digesting Rove or Prius Reibus?
“So, does that make you the king of substantiation? “
No, not at all, but as I just replied to another poster, if the FOIA can be used to drive a sitting governor out of office, why don’t we see this tactic being used by the RATs everywhere.
I understand that the “Sarah Lovers” here on FR get their panties in a wad any time someone asks a probing question about her, but personally, I don’t buy what’s been sold as the truth. Oh, well, if she was out of money as governor, she sure isn’t any more. Anyone who doesn’t have the financial backing to take on the RAT jackals, isn’t anyone I’d want to see in the White House.
Try 13 to 14
I suppose that gives us the option to believe your view of hearsay as much as you believing what came out of her own mouth. Geez, so why would anyone base an opinion on hearsay when they can hear it from the horse’s mouth? But then again, it is obvious that you care nothing about that.
The reason she left was largely due to the phony ethical complaints that the state of Alaska had to respond to and that cost Alaska $$$$$. It also practically defunded the Palin family. She probably felt like much of her term was done she basically had less than a year and a half left in her term so she could say she did it to save Alaska $$$$$ which it did. I personally made a point of following the Alaska media after the 2008 election to follow what was going on up there because one knew that the dem party would target her using any means neccessary to destroy her. The phony ethical complaints which cost money to defend and respond to was tactic #1. A perfect example was she would go out of state to a governors meeting and some leftist somewhere would file an ethics complaint saying she was not attending to state business by being out of state. It would have been nice if the nat’l republican party would have done something to defend Palin on the political hit job by the left but they did nothing. So Palin has a choice. Does she spend endless amounts of time dealing with these phony ethical complaints which were literally never going to end. If fact there were phony ethical complaints still going on even after she left office. And there is ample evidence that high up operatiuves in the dem party were pulling strings to do this to Palin. So should Palin stay if the govornorship and have her personal wealth defunded by quite frankly liberal facists or does she resign since most of what she had on her agenda was larely done (pipeline etc..). The left thought for sure her career was over when she resigned and all she’s done is arguably be the most influential republican in helping the republicans win the house in 2010 and of course sell about 4 million more books than most liberal writers will ever sell. Well that’s my take on it. If she runs in 2016 she’ll obviously will need to have an answer to respond to that question but that’s generally how I see it.
Rove does have a point about Palins abandoning her office. Ive heard a lot of hearsay about the reasons, but she hasnt made it clear to my satisfaction that it was a necessary step.
No, Rove has no points in this matter. Rove and the RNC stood by and watched without lifting a finger. Meanwhile Rove backs the GOPe and tries to screw over the base. Rove is what Mark Levin calls “syphilis on the body politic”.
Hearsay? Hasn’t made it clear? Not to your satisfaction? What in the Frack do you need? A note from her mommy? Sheesh! Been under a rock for the last few years? She spells it out clearly in her book and Bannon spells it out very clearly in the documentary “The Undefeated”.
1. Nearly 600k in legal bills,
2. Spending her time fending off FOIA requests (aka: 24,000 emails and personal information). Lets not forget the email hacking.
3. Countless bogus ethics complaints from the “Alaskan Mudflats,” a group who used false names on their complaints, made stuff up and suffered NO PENALTY for false accusations. They openly admitted that their goal was to paralyze and bankrupt her.
In one complaint, prosecuted by a lawyer who worked on Obama’s team, an ethics investigation was initiated against her legal defense fund. It doesn’t get worse than that.
At current projections, if she stayed, she was looking at over a million dollars in legal bills. Any help from the GOP? Nope. Any word from the GOP to tell the state senators to help? Nope. Any support from the right wing talking heads at FOX? Nope. The only help came from her supporters in the lower 48 and a few talk radio hosts (not to mention liberal lawyer Alan Dershowitz).
Gabby Giffords shooting? All those GOP superstars ran into the tall grass. She leaves office? Only snickers from Rove and company. She helps conservatives in 2010 and 2012 and the “smart people” tell her to get lost. Yeah, I’m really feeling the love from Rove and his sycophants.
...and of course from vette6387’s recent post.
4. The Alaska statehouse locked her out of any passage of future bills/plans she wanted to introduce. Dems were told by the DNC that if they helped Palin, they would get primaried big time and all help cut off. Pubs were told to stay away from Palin so as to return the good old days of the CBC (corrupt bastards club, which Palin help curtail in her governorship).
Had she stayed, no doubt people would complain about all the ethics complaints, her legal debts and how she couldn’t do anything in that statehouse in her last 18 months. Her help in the 2010 and 2012 elections would be non-existent and I’m sure Rove would find something new to bitch about (they always do because they such good whores after all).
5. Fire bombing her church. Countless harassment. Death threats.
Too many people on the right suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. They are so whipped by pop culture and MSM sneers that they sit down and shut up to the point of surrender. In time, such wimps get programed that since “Rove/GOPe/Hollywood/MSM have issues with (name of conservative) then surely it must be true (whimper...whimper). As a result the base “settles” for the “safe” choice which often screws us in the end. Mitt only got a taste of the Palin treatment and he folded like a cheap suit.
Palin isn’t good enough for ya? Trust me bucko, when your guy/gal goes through the shredder, don’t go cryin to us. Don’t go complaining when gates of Mordor open up on them.
And even still, after all the crap Palin’s received, she still fights, engages in POP CULTURE and rallies the base. I can’t say that of the GOP these days.
“I would not expect an objective conversation from vette6387. Not sure he/she is interested in the facts.”
How so? Looks like the “Sarah Groupies” are at their keyboards tonight! She should have found a way to stay through her term as governor. Quitting was the kiss of death for her to do anything substantial in the future by way of elective office. But then, she’s an excellent speaker and can use those skills to whip up the conservative troops. I am glad she took a poke at Tokyo Rove @ CPAC, my view is that we are where we are today because of the Bushes. I hope she uses the stump to torpedo the “Third Turd” in the Bush camp.
BTW, just what is not objective about questioning this situation? It’s not any different I guess than if you were a FUBO supporter, always on guard for someone questioning “The Magic Negro.”
So you missed this development?
Illegal Sarah Palin defense fund must give back donations
Rince is the perfect cross between whiny and monotone.
He speaks, I cringe.
no boba vette, they defend Palin because of their loyalty and because of what is lacking in today’s GOP...someone who gets pop culture and conservative values.
By the way, who is your guy? C’mon you can tell us. I’m sure the MSM will dig something up, skew the info and make him/her look like a monster. I’m sure if he/she is attacked, you’d be firing back (blah-blah-blah). Then as the naybobs on FR come attacking, you’ll be saying “Hey, we need to stick together (blah-blah-blah).
Won’t name anyone? Typical
” If she runs in 2016 shell obviously will need to have an answer to respond to that question but thats generally how I see it.”
Good rundown! But as you point out, if she chooses to run again, I can’t see how having stepped down mid-term isn’t going to haunt her. Maybe, she didn’t have any options, but it’s a chilling thought that today you can drive a person from public office with FOIA requests. And you get no argument from me with regard to the GOPe that bunch of pantywaists who don’t want the likes of Palin on the national stage. I guess in hindsight, she probably should not have gone in with McLame, because he and his staff “thanked” her by trashing her during as well as after the campaign. On the other hand, she would probaby be an unknown today without him.
Sarah Palin Resignation Speech: FULL VIDEO, TEXT
Some say things changed for me on August 29th last year - the day John McCain tapped me to be his running-mate - I say others changed.
Let me speak to that for a minute.
Political operatives descended on Alaska last August, digging for dirt. The ethics law I championed became their weapon of choice. Over the past nine months I've been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations - such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters' questions.
Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We've won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to "opposition research" - that's money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers - or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the "politics of personal destruction" ... Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn't cost them a dime so they're not going to stop draining public resources - spending other peoples' money in their game.
It's pretty insane - my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more "politics as usual," but THIS isn't what anyone had in mind for ALASKA.
If I have learned one thing: LIFE is about choices!
And one chooses how to react to circumstances. You can choose to engage in things that tear down, or build up. I choose to work very hard on a path for fruitfulness and productivity. I choose NOT to tear down and waste precious time; but to build UP this state and our country, and her industrious, generous, patriotic, free people!
Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and "go with the flow".
Nah, only dead fish "go with the flow".
No. Productive, fulfilled people determine where to put their efforts, choosing to wisely utilize precious time... to BUILD UP.
And there is such a need to BUILD up and FIGHT for our state and our country. I choose to FIGHT for it! And I'll work hard for others who still believe in free enterprise and smaller government; strong national security for our country and support for our troops; energy independence; and for those who will protect freedom and equality and LIFE... I'll work for and campaign for those PROUD to be American, and those who are INSPIRED by our ideals and won't deride them.
I WILL support others who seek to serve, in or out of office, for the RIGHT reasons, and I don't care what party they're in or no party at all. Inside Alaska - or Outside Alaska.
But I won't do it from the Governor's desk.
I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this - to make a difference... to HELP people. So I choose, for my State and my family, more "freedom" to progress, all the way around... so that Alaska may progress... I will not seek re-election as Governor.
And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn't run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks... travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade - as so many politicians do. And then I thought - that's what's wrong - many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and "milk it". I'm not putting Alaska through that - I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! ? That's not how I am wired. I am not wired to operate under the same old "politics as usual." I promised that four years ago - and I meant it.
It's not what is best for Alaska.
I am determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is unconventional and not so comfortable.
With this announcement that I am not seeking re-election... I've determined it's best to transfer the authority of governor to Lieutenant Governor Parnell; and I am willing to do so, so that this administration - with its positive agenda, its accomplishments, and its successful road to an incredible future - can continue without interruption and with great administrative and legislative success.
My choice is to take a stand and effect change - not hit our heads against the wall and watch valuable state time and money, millions of your dollars, go down the drain in this new environment. Rather, we know we can effect positive change outside government at this moment in time, on another scale, and actually make a difference for our priorities - and so we will, for Alaskans and for Americans.
Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me - sports... basketball. I use it because you're na�ve if you don't see the national full-court press picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket... and she knows exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can WIN. And I'm doing that - keeping our eye on the ball that represents sound priorities - smaller government, energy independence, national security, freedom! And I know when it's time to pass the ball - for victory.
I have given my reasons candidly and truthfully... and my last day won't be for another few weeks so the transition will be very smooth. In fact, we will look to swear Sean in - in Fairbanks at the conclusion of our Governor's picnics.
I do not want to disappoint anyone with my decision; all I can ask is that you TRUST me with this decision - but it's no more "politics as usual".
Some Alaskans don't mind wasting public dollars and state time. I do. I cannot stand here as your Governor and allow millions upon millions of our dollars go to waste just so I can hold the title of Governor. And my children won't allow it either. ? Some will question the timing. ? Let's just say, this decision has been in the works for awhile...
SEE? Posts #23 and 32!!
Hm..lets ask Rove about his divorces...something about being a quitter?
Frivolous politically motivated lawsuits that were threatening to bankrupt her, including one that went after her because she wore a carhart jacket in public. Shortly after she left office, they changed the laws that allowed such lawsuits. Now, are you satisfied? It wouldn’t have taken much research to find out. Are you aware that her church was firebombed? The media kept that quiet, too. If you want to know the real skinny, you can’t depend on Katie Couric and Jon Stewart.
But Rove is a punk.
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