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To: Steelers6

I think the 17th was the worst. It defeated the whole purpose of having a bicameral legislature, and made our Congress the source of the “Bread and Circuses” demands of the citizenry.


5 posted on 03/15/2013 1:31:53 AM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: wolfpat
Consider the warning of James Madison. The following is his response on June 6th 1788 to Patrick Henry’s charge that the Constitution’s enumerated powers and our freedoms would be usurped .

“If the general government were wholly independent of the governments of the particular states, then, indeed, usurpation might be expected to the fullest extent. But, sir, on whom does this general government depend? It derives its authority from these governments, and from the same sources from which their authority is derived.”

The 17th removed State agency from the federal republic. As predicted by Montesquieu, Locke, Federalists and Anti-Federalists, we slipped into a consolidated government that rules by force and not the consent of the governed.

6 posted on 03/15/2013 2:40:16 AM PDT by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: wolfpat
"I think the 17th was the worst."

I agree. I don't think Dingey Harry would still be in.
He has done a lot of damage to our country. . . . .

7 posted on 03/15/2013 3:17:12 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I owe my life to ZERO. I am taking good care of myself so I can see the SOB marched off to JAIL)
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To: wolfpat
I think the 17th was the worst. It defeated the whole purpose of having a bicameral legislature, and made our Congress the source of the “Bread and Circuses” demands of the citizenry.

Absolutely! Repeal of the 17th is the first/best step to getting our country back.
10 posted on 03/15/2013 3:46:53 AM PDT by Deek
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To: wolfpat

I agree. the 17th has been the biggest disaster. We started electing senators by popular vote so they’re elected by the biggest city in a state. Now they go to Washington and completely ignore the will of the people.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 4:53:12 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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