Posted on 03/12/2013 3:11:43 PM PDT by marktwain
While lawmakers in Olympia wrestle with a state universal background check measure, the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee today adopted on a 10-8 party line vote a similar measure that faces an uncertain future before the entire Senate.
But Sen. Charles Grassley (R- Iowa) warned that this measure could ultimately lead to registration and even confiscation when anti-gunners realize background checks do not prevent violent crimes. In California, guns are already being confiscated from people who may live with someone who has been disqualified under a state law, according to a published report.
His warning fell on the deaf ears of committee Democrats, who decided to take up Sen. Dianne Feinstein's bill to ban so-called "assault weapons" on Thursday. That measure may not fare so well before the committee.
Senate Republicans are wary of the federal background check legislation, and Sen. Grassley reminded the committee during Tuesday’s debate that “Criminals do not comply with existing background check laws. Why would anyone think criminals will comply (with) broader background check requirements?”
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“If a well-regulated militia be the most natural defense of a free country, it ought certainly to be under the regulation and at the disposal of that body which is constituted the guardian of the national security. If standing armies are dangerous to liberty, an efficacious power over the militia in the same body ought, as far as possible, to take away the inducement and the pretext to such unfriendly institutions. If the federal government can command the aid of the militia in those emergencies which call for the military arm in support of the civil magistrate, it can the better dispense with the employment of a different kind of force. If it cannot avail itself of the former, it will be obliged to recur to the latter. To render an army unnecessary will be a more certain method of preventing its existence than a thousand prohibitions upon paper.” —Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 29
“By calling attention to ‘a well regulated militia’, the ‘security’ of the nation, and the right of each citizen ‘to keep and bear arms’, our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason, I believe the Second Amendment will always be important.” -Senator John F. Kennedy, rightwing extremist, April 1960
All this needs is for a Republican to add an amendment to the bill that requires the same background check be implemented for issuing voter ID cards. That’ll fix this.
EXCELLENT!!!!! Emails are going out shortly! Thanks my good FRiend!
Gun registration has been going on for 40 years. Buy a gun from a retail store. Then sell it to someone else. If cops determine that gun has been used in a crime you will be getting a phone call asking who you sold it to. It happend to me in 1977 on a gun I bought at Western Auto.
and background checks will be performed on all people who hold national office.
Good Idea. Go ahead and require a full scale Top Secret +4 check for any POTUS or POTUS wannabe.
“Go ahead and require a full scale Top Secret +4 check for any POTUS or POTUS wannabe.”
And then REQUIRE that the results of that check be published UNEDITED and PUBLICLY.
Grassley is right. This is just the build up to gun registration.
They can ask, but in most states you do not need to keep records. That is what this "universal background check" is mostly about. If you have to keep records, the gun is essentially registered.
You have a Constitutional right to abortion through a Constitutionally found right to privacy. There clearly is a Constitutional right to privacy in arms, in order to prevent infringement of the Second Amendment. It has not yet been found by the courts.
Let’s get this straight.........you have pass a background in order to buy or sell a gun but you do not have to have one to be President of the United States.
Go to a gun show, see the firearm you like, tell the seller, “meet me in the parking lot” conclude the transaction.
I mean what the hell, these idiots are simply going to create an underground firearm selling industry, excluding the government from all sales and taxes they normally would be collecting with each sale.
The Dumb just get dumber by the second!
In 1977 I bought a .357 magnum at Western Auto. I was going to be a cop. My first call was a guy and his brother-in-law were fighting and one of them shot the other. As the rookie it was my job to help put the dead guy on the stretcher. And naturally the position they assigned me to was where thy guy had pissed his pants.
About 5 weeks later I quit the cop work and went back into radio. I sold the gun to a deputy sheriff. Two years later I had moved to another town and was working in a new field in Little Rock. I got a call from the ATF or some outfit. They wanted to know if I still had the gun I had purchased at Western Auto on the day Jimmy Carter was sworn in. I told him I sold it to a deputy in Craighead County. He said “Thank you” and I asked “Has this gun be involve in a crime.?” He indicated it had. I asked him if it was murder and he said he couldn’t say.
So what I’m pointing out is they are registered when you buy them at a retail dealer. And no matter how many times that weapon changes hands it will come back to you. With me it started with me because the gun was left at the scene of the crime so they started with me and went forward.
The way around this if to have people you sell to not know your name and you not know the names of the people who sell to you. And this is why they’re wanting gun checks on everyone.
Only an idiot would believe those records are destroyed after a couple years.
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