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Russia to replace current bombers with subsonic flying wing
Flight International ^ | 11 Mar 2013 | Howard Gethin

Posted on 03/12/2013 2:22:25 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Russia to replace current bombers with subsonic flying wing

The Russian air force has selected a subsonic Tupolev flying wing proposal as the basis for its PAK-DA long-range bomber programme, according to command sources quoted by local media. If confirmed, the choice would end a long campaign by deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin to develop a hypersonic aircraft, which appears to have been abandoned as technically incompatible with the air force's insistence on extended-range performance and stealth characteristics.

Moscow announced a competition for bomber designs during 2012. Its programme "attracted several proposals from various design bureaus, including the Tupolev flying-wing design and at least one hypersonic proposal", a defence ministry source told the Izvestia newspaper.

A blended fuselage flying-wing design will permit installation of the engines inside the aircraft, maximising stealth and minimising the aircraft's infrared signature, air force sources say.

"Given the timescale, the general state of the Russian aerospace sector, the demands being placed upon it, and the likely available funding, a high-speed option was unlikely to be favoured given the enormous technical risk," says Douglas Barrie, air warfare analyst with the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies. "Hypersonics may feature as part of the PAK-DA programme, but as strike weapons carried within the aircraft's internal bay or bays."

Last year, Rogozin announced the formation of a joint-venture between Tactical Missiles Corporation and NPO Mashinostroyenia to research hypersonic technology.

Tupolev will complete an outline proposal for the aircraft and present a budget proposal for detailed design work by the start of 2014. Production is due to begin by 2020, with the type expected to eventually replace the air force's Tupolev Tu-95 and Tu-160 (below) bombers.

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"Even taking the 'conservative' option, the timescale for development of the bomber remains ambitious," Barrie says.

Rogozin had long championed a hypersonic design for Russia's future bomber requirement. Speaking in August 2012, he noted: "The question is: will we copy the Americans' 40-year experience and create a [Northrop Grumman] B-2 analog? Or will we go down a new, ultra-modern technology route, looking to the horizon, and create a machine able to penetrate air defences and carry out a strike on any aggressor?"

US Air Force

Deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin had wanted to avoid imitating the USAF's B-2 design


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; bomber; russia; tu160

1 posted on 03/12/2013 2:22:25 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Could be as successful as their space shuttle.
2 posted on 03/12/2013 2:28:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Well it looks pretty cool: http://www.dailyairforce.com/1100/russian-bomber-in-doubt.html
3 posted on 03/12/2013 2:29:58 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Little Ray

Looks a bit like the Nazi Silver Bird.


4 posted on 03/12/2013 2:31:51 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: sukhoi-30mki







5 posted on 03/12/2013 2:38:32 PM PDT by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Little Ray

Tupolev TB-3

Talk about sleathy! ;-)
6 posted on 03/12/2013 2:41:38 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: BenLurkin

I’m not so sure the Buran Shuttle was so much unsuccessful as it was too expensive for them.

For that matter I’m not sure ours were worth the cost considering the fact that we’re going back to the simple heavy lift rocket style.


7 posted on 03/12/2013 2:42:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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It looks like the wings retract at speed?

Those vertical stabilizers are TOO vertical for low-radar-signature, no?


8 posted on 03/12/2013 2:45:42 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: cripplecreek

Who is on the Bomb list these days the ICBM makes bombers obselete I think the B-2’s housed somewhere in the USA have achieved this already and this is no great feat!
Russia still 20 years behind! Oh and who Defected for economic reasons to Russia!
Maybe the tax base for Scientists and Areonautical Engineers is lower there!


9 posted on 03/12/2013 2:50:09 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Adolph says: "Welcome to the party, boys, what took you so long?"



10 posted on 03/12/2013 4:22:44 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Rio

Those vertical stabilizers are TOO vertical for low-radar-signature, no?

That was my thought first time I saw the photo.


11 posted on 03/12/2013 4:41:58 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Kartographer
The 30s dawn

Russia Tupolev TB-3
Greatest bombload

France Amiot 140
Fastest

United Kingdom Fairey Hendon
Longest range

USA Keystone B-6 (ordered after all the previous first flew)
Let US give peace a chance


12 posted on 03/12/2013 4:59:17 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Kartographer

Hey, that looks cool, too, in a diesel-punk sorta way.


13 posted on 03/12/2013 5:31:58 PM PDT by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: BenLurkin

What exactly wrong was with their space shuttle? AFAIK it was a first ever successful robotic aircraft. No crew, no remote control, it was building it’s own flight plan and all with about 128 bit of computing power.
The problem is shuttle is not a good way to travel in space. Vehicle itself is costly and a lot of payload. Conventional capsules aren’t that sexy but ten times more efficient.


14 posted on 03/12/2013 7:32:15 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Rio

This sketch has nothing to do with an article. It is clearly a mid-80s concept of hypersonic non-stealthy bomber built around a Tu-160 power plant.
If article is correct, new bomber won’t look like that.


15 posted on 03/12/2013 7:53:27 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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