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California City Wants to Require Solar on Every New Home
greentech media ^ | March 1, 2013 | Herman K. Trabish

Posted on 03/10/2013 9:01:26 AM PDT by Professional Engineer

Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, California, wants every new home in his city to host solar. And starting next January, that could be a reality.

Yesterday in Lancaster, homebuilder KB Home celebrated its 1,000th new home with solar panels from SunPower. Speaking at the event, Mayor Parris announced his city will institute a first-of-its-kind requirement that solar be installed on every new single-family home built in Lancaster after January 1, 2014.

The new law will be written into Lancaster’s “Residential Zones Update” on residential solar. Along with a range of green building provisions, it specifies that new single family homes meet minimum solar system requirements.

“The purpose of the solar energy system standards,” it reads, “is to encourage investment in solar energy on all parcels in the city, while providing guidelines for the installation of those systems that are consistent with the architectural and building standards of the City.” It is further intended “to provide standards and procedures for builders of new homes to install solar energy systems in an effort to achieve greater usage of alternative energy.”

Residential homes on lots from 7,000 square feet must have a solar system of 1.0 kilowatt to 1.5 kilowatts. Rural residential homes of up to 100,000 square feet must have a system of at least 1.5 kilowatts.

The standards spell out simple, common-sense rules for both roof-mounted and ground-mounted systems. They also deal with some interesting issues:

A builder’s model home must show the kind of solar system the builder will offer. Builders of subdivisions will be able to aggregate the houses’ requirements. If ten houses in a subdivision each have a 1.0 kilowatt requirement, the builder can install a single 10-kilowatt system, two 5-kilowatt systems or four 2.5 kilowatt systems. If a housing tract is built in phases, each phase must meet the requirement. Multi-family developments can meet the requirement with a rooftop system or a system on a support or shade structure.

Finally, builders “may choose to meet the solar energy generation requirement off-site by providing evidence of purchasing solar energy credits from another solar-generating development located within the City.”

Mayor Parris, who frequently promises to make Lancaster “the solar energy capital of the world,” expressed confidence that he has the City Council votes for approval, despite resistance from the building industry.

“I understand the building industry is not happy with this,” Parris said. “We will just have to take the heat. I could not do that without a City Council -- made up of people who want a political career -- with the courage to take that heat.”

The building industry should understand “that we work with them, not for them," he said. "They are not in a hurry to disrupt our partnership. Opposition would disrupt it.”

Even with resistance from some members of the building community, the market is shifting.

“There are a rapidly increasing number of solar homes being built,” said Matt Brost, SunPower's national director for new home sales. “One of every five built in California this year will be solar powered.”

Along with partnering with KB Home, SunPower has worked with other major home builders like Lennar Homes, Richmond American Homes, and Standard Pacific Homes.

Mayor Parris, a Republican, noted that Lancaster is “one of the most conservative Republican districts in the country. But Republicans are smart,” he said. “When you show them a solution, they will take it.”

Tags: green building, home builder, lancaster, california, residential solar, rooftop solar, solar energy system, solar home, sunpower


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; califsolar; forcedsolarhomes; globalwarming; liberty; solar; solarhomes; solarhouses; tyranny
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The RINO mayor of Lancaster wants to stop new single family home development it would seem.

Solar is fine if the owner chooses, but big brother needs to stuff it.

1 posted on 03/10/2013 9:01:26 AM PDT by Professional Engineer
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To: Professional Engineer

Congratulations to the voters of Lancaster, California. LOL! Good job!


2 posted on 03/10/2013 9:04:50 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

No hailstorms out that way, I presume...


3 posted on 03/10/2013 9:06:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Professional Engineer

Good page under construction....

http://parrisites.com/


4 posted on 03/10/2013 9:07:00 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Professional Engineer

Solar just might make sense in certain parts of the world.Or even in certain parts of this country.Solar hot water in Florida,Texas,Arizona or California might make sense over time.But *mandatory*? Gimme a break.


5 posted on 03/10/2013 9:08:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Professional Engineer

I wonder how much the department of solar energy compliance will cost, and what kind of weapons their swat team will be armed with...


6 posted on 03/10/2013 9:08:03 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Sounds expensive. Nice green way to keep out the riff-raff.


7 posted on 03/10/2013 9:10:00 AM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I wish I could say LMAO, but these days, you may be close to the mark.

They’ll team up with big sis and her MRAPs.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 9:11:14 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (No one expects the Sephardic Invitation!)
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I'm guessing the MRAPs won't be solar powered, either....
9 posted on 03/10/2013 9:13:11 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I would like to mess with solar myself. I’ve had an idea or two cooking about some simple to build one off installations for water heater here at home.


10 posted on 03/10/2013 9:13:40 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (No one expects the Sephardic Invitation!)
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To: Professional Engineer
requirement that solar be installed on every new single-family home built in Lancaster after January 1, 2014.

I predict a housing boom in Lancaster this year followed by a multi year bust.

However, I am looking to include a small solar panel and battery to power a ventilation fan and LED lights in a storage shed because running power will be too expensive. Nothing wrong with solar if it makes economic sense. Just let the market decide instead of a busybody government,

11 posted on 03/10/2013 9:14:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: Professional Engineer

1.5 kilowatts, about enough to run our microwave oven.


12 posted on 03/10/2013 9:14:46 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Hey, Mister Mayor - If you show people a solution and they take it, why do you need a law to make them take it?


13 posted on 03/10/2013 9:14:47 AM PDT by Bob
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Rex Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, California, wants every new home in his city to host solar. And starting next January, that could be a reality.

This is what happens when the people allow tyrants to be tyrants - they encourage MORE tyrants to come out of the proverbial closet.

Since zero is getting away with being a tyrant, other tyrants are beginning to emerge.

Until/unless WE do something to reclaim control of our government and our elected officials, this situation will only continue to get worse. The coice is between having the uprising now or having a worse uprising later.

14 posted on 03/10/2013 9:15:49 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

coice = choice


15 posted on 03/10/2013 9:17:06 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Lancaster = Sandblaster


16 posted on 03/10/2013 9:18:26 AM PDT by Dawggie
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To: AndrewB

Pretty soon the only home some people will be able to afford will be a lean-to or an old refrigerator box. However, refrigerator boxes will be few and far between and the tools needed to construct the lean-to will be deemed too dangerous to own.


17 posted on 03/10/2013 9:18:36 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: AndrewB

Maybe BP should weigh in. Oh wait. BP just closed down it’s solar unit. Guess after many years and billions of $$$ they finally figured it wasn’t yet viable. Hmmmm. Now if we could just get rid of those other blights on the landscape. Yes those beautiful wind turbines. Driving in the middle of NFW Nebraska we were subjected to these awesome giant bird killers stretching in to the horizon. (At least I think it was Nebraska? Middle of somewhere in the plains.)


18 posted on 03/10/2013 9:18:56 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Joe 6-pack
I'm guessing the MRAPs won't be solar powered, either....

They could use hot air from bloviating bureaucrats or maybe captured methane from farting cows.

19 posted on 03/10/2013 9:19:02 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (No one expects the Sephardic Invitation!)
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To: Lurker

I hear that Boeing is holding a FIRE SALE on its left over 787 LiIon batteries. If you want to run your microwave at night, give them a call.


20 posted on 03/10/2013 9:20:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: stayathomemom

Not to worry. New cars aren’t affordable by the middle class. The middle class can take all the money it’s saving by not buying cars and buy premium refrigerator boxes.


21 posted on 03/10/2013 9:22:08 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Professional Engineer

And when the home doesn’t use as much power as the city thinks it should be using they’ll add a special tax to make up the difference of lost taxes on electrical bills.


22 posted on 03/10/2013 9:22:12 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Effective protest (index sized) palmcard. On the face (REVERSE SIDE)or below the slogan you can put the name of the candidate you favor and the election dates...EXCELLENT FOR SLIPPING UNDER WINDSHIELD WIPERS ON CARS PARKED IN KEY PARKING LOTS CHURCHES, RALLY SITES....

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GOD DENIERS AND PREDACIOUS LIARS
ARE REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH INCITERS/
FIRST YOUR MONEY THEN YOUR GUNS
ISSUING DECREES OF MANY COME
DEMAND SURRENDERING CHOICES ONE BY ONE
INTO REGIMENTATION YOU MUST RUN
AND NOW THEIR ROBOT YOU’VE BECOME

It’s time to get government out of Our faces
Our religions and and Our pocketbooks


23 posted on 03/10/2013 9:23:22 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Dawggie
Lancaster = Sandblaster

Snicker, sounds about right, surrounded by the lush green Mohave Desert.

24 posted on 03/10/2013 9:25:23 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (No one expects the Sephardic Invitation!)
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To: Lurker
1.5 kilowatts, about enough to run our microwave oven.

At noon on a bright sunny day. Sheesh.

I wonder if there's any requirement to maintain these worthless defacements? I can see an after market of solar de-installers. It's like an AOL or ASK.com toolbar that you have to pry off your computer. As soon as the residents move in they rent one of those driveway trash receptacles and head over to Home Depot to get crow bars to pry them off with.

25 posted on 03/10/2013 9:26:00 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: Professional Engineer
Of course - then they'll have to hire a bunch of new inspectors!

....let's all sing......"Look for, the union label"....

26 posted on 03/10/2013 9:30:32 AM PDT by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Professional Engineer

how about just a law forbiding local cosmetic ordinaces ala small sat. dishes.


27 posted on 03/10/2013 9:32:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I wonder if they are mandating grid tie also. My system is just under 1.0 kW (off grid) and, with a bank of several batteries, is just enough to run the primary electronics in the house and somewhat marginal in the winter.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 9:33:38 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Professional Engineer

Pretty scarey that the liberal scum want to invade every faction of our lives, not just on California but, everywhere.

We need a revolution...


29 posted on 03/10/2013 9:34:27 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: KarlInOhio

I would agree...figure huge boom this year...maybe a quarter of this year’s homes will be built next year.

Solar makes sense in a very limited way. You need to live in a region that has 250 days of sunshine, and you need to expect only minimum pay-back (maybe enough power to run your lights).

My humble guess is that five years in the future....some folks will be building homes with very cheap solar panels that probably don’t work....but mostly for the city requirement and show. That’s it. They might even be fake panels put in abundance for several years...until the city figures out the fake routine.


30 posted on 03/10/2013 9:34:42 AM PDT by pepsionice
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California City Wants to Require Solar on Every New Home

What's the problem, are some homeowners not allowing the sun to shine on their houses?

31 posted on 03/10/2013 9:35:50 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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1.5 kilowatts, about enough to run our microwave oven.

1.5 KW is respectable and would run my house most of the time. One could not comfortably live off grid on 1.5 KW but it would keep the lights on, computer running and maybe power a small refrigerator too. But at what costs? At $4/watt that 1.5wk costs you $6,000.00 plus you only get that 1.5kw during daylight when it is nice outside. Also the system will degrade over time and have to be replaced in 15 or 20 years. All in all Solar is not yet a good investment for those of us watching our pennies.

32 posted on 03/10/2013 9:36:11 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Professional Engineer

Rex”Bloomberg” Parris, the mayor of Lancaster, California, wants every new home in his city to host solar. And starting next January, that could be a reality. There fixed it, enough said.


33 posted on 03/10/2013 9:37:06 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Professional Engineer

lol

so basically the state wants to force people to use technology that doesn’t really work, is expensive to maintain and will dramatically increase the cost of a new home?

Good freaking grief!!! that GOD I don’t live in New York or California!!!!

WHY do the people in those two states put up with this!!???

who wants to be told what to do all the time!?!??!


34 posted on 03/10/2013 9:39:05 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
My system is just under 1.0 kW (off grid) and, with a bank of several batteries, is just enough to run the primary electronics in the house and somewhat marginal in the winter.

How about adding a woodchip gasifier generator? Got chips?

35 posted on 03/10/2013 9:39:08 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: pepsionice
some folks will be building homes with very cheap solar panels that probably don’t work.

With all of the solar companies that are and have folded, it looks like cheap low quality ones from China will be all that are available. Could this be a move to bail out a US supplier?

36 posted on 03/10/2013 9:39:22 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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Rural residential homes of up to 100,000 square feet must have a system of at least 1.5 kilowatts.

SRSLY? 1.5kW, not enough to make any real contribution to the total power requiremnet, it's just required to be annoying.


37 posted on 03/10/2013 9:43:00 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Professional Engineer

This is liberal “How to Start a Successful Business 101”


38 posted on 03/10/2013 9:47:14 AM PDT by logitech (Who's here so vile, that will not love his country? If any speak, for him I have offended)
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To: Professional Engineer

Lancaster is a dump of a town. This will only make it dumpier...

However, it ought to make Palmdale and Rosamond boom!


39 posted on 03/10/2013 9:47:54 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Professional Engineer
If government can force you to buy health insurance, government can force you to buy anything.
40 posted on 03/10/2013 9:49:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Professional Engineer

Solar power is dumb!!!

Eliminate the government subsidy and you eliminate solar power!!!


41 posted on 03/10/2013 9:50:48 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: pepsionice

Can you say Agenda 21?


42 posted on 03/10/2013 9:54:14 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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...when the home doesn’t use as much power as the city thinks...

Or pay the Home owner for the extra power fed back to the network.

43 posted on 03/10/2013 9:58:19 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. liberals and logic: Never confuse the two! Hi MI# !)
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To: Professional Engineer

We purchased an older home with a hot water system that was installed in 1983. It works perfectly, no maintenance, and free hot water all year, plus some domestic heating as needed. It makes a great deal of economic and engineering sense. Full disclosure - it’s sunny 300 days/year where we live. Send mail if you want more detail.


44 posted on 03/10/2013 10:01:47 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Curious as to how the price to build in solar from the beginning compares to building a standard house and then retrofitting it later. seems as if the difference in the price of materials might be the main difference since there may only be one set of labor charges. I would like to see a spreadsheet analysis of the cost difference, it could change the payback calculations in a major way. I might even become a valid economic choice instead of a political/green choice.
Need more information for a valid comparison.


45 posted on 03/10/2013 10:07:26 AM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: Professional Engineer

It might work in Lancaster there in the high desert.


46 posted on 03/10/2013 10:14:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Professional Engineer

Just think of all that extra water people will be using to wash off their solar panels.


47 posted on 03/10/2013 10:23:59 AM PDT by Dawggie
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To: Professional Engineer

My parents have had a passive solar system since ‘82. My dad is convinced that they never recovered the cost even though there was a huge subsidy in ‘82 when it was built.

I am skeptical that it didn’t. Thirty years of providing hot water approx 5 mos out of the year. 5 x 30 = 150 mos @ $50 per month = $7500. Not bad.

It was still running last year running and providing hot water in the summer months and mostly in the Spring and Fall. It never provided heat to the house even though the builders promised that it would.

My dad said that it used some low maintenance liquid and that was why it lasted so long.

Oh, he did have to pay for some repairs a couple of years ago ~$600.

We live in Colorado and get a lot of sun.


48 posted on 03/10/2013 10:25:33 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Professional Engineer

In Mexico most of the houses have black water tanks on their roofs, but no solar electric generation. They are poor there so they wouldn’t do it if it didn’t make economic sense. Lancaster is more hispanic than white and has plenty of heat so turning it into a Mexican town and learning Spanish will work for them.


49 posted on 03/10/2013 10:39:37 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Professional Engineer

If the Fed can force us to buy health insurance...

It’s only the beginning.


50 posted on 03/10/2013 10:54:00 AM PDT by DPMD
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