Posted on 03/10/2013 8:19:44 AM PDT by BroJoeK
The fire-eaters however had only war on their minds.
Why wouldn't the Union defend those forts, etc? After all they were the property of the federal US government.
Because The U.S. did not recognize the independence of S. Carolina and thus had no obligation to just leave federal forts. Yeah, some group met in Charleston and just said “see ya”, but that is not “independence” no more than what happened in Philadelphia in 1776.
The feds did not stop these people from declaring whatever they wanted. But it didn’t mean they had to play along.
Hugo Chavez was a great humanitarian and saviour of the Venezuelan people. He died leaving a country that was greatly equalized with opportunity for all.
IF you want to know the truth about something—NEVER ask a twit professor of scatology masquerading as history. The people who actually were there, their families, the stakeholders.
Let’s take the logical conclusions from these “results”, and fast forward into the 1900’s and to today. You have buttinsky Progressive BS from the get go. And obamaumao is Abe Lincoln. Got news— he suuuure is. Statists of the World, Unite.
I generally agree with the thrust and tone of this post, but as far as pillaging goes, even Lee’s worst critics admit his army never caused any unnecessary harm or damage and never took more than they could use. They were driven by necessity, not wantonness. Sherman intended to inflict harm and damage to bring the Confederacy to its knees. The Confederate armies avoided contact with the Union forces as much as possible after Gettysburg, they were trying to wear down resolve in the North. Sherman and Grant’s strategy was to force the Confederate armies to confront them or face ruin. In the end they got both.
The Threadnaught has cleared the harbor. Full steam ahead.
Racism has always been practiced more intensely in liberal states. Maintaining rigid welfare ghettos, restricting economic opportunity to minorities, and installing race baiting politicians are common practices in liberal northern states.
Thank You! The Eyes of Texas. “The gallant Hood of Texas played Hell in Tennessee”
Do you not read? I copied the quote from the article above. I'll post it again, just to help you out...
In fact, neither out-going President Buchanan nor incoming President Lincoln did anything to stop secessionists from declaring independence and forming a new Confederacy
Look up above. It's Reason #5 up there, and incorporated into 2 other Reasons.
‘Minority’ professional athletes have frequently named Boston, ground zero for the liberalism bomb destroying America, as the most racist city they visit.
That's odd, I was just going to say the same about our Pro-Confederate posters these days... ;-)
Sooooo, ironic, isn't it?
Of course I read - but do you think? Would you feeeeeeeeeeel better if Lincoln had immediately set out to crush the treasonous rebellion instead of first attempting peaceful solutions?
I know - right? Like all those Jim Crow laws that the north passed...oh wait.
Again, we are talking about today. Today. Not decades ago, when racist Democrats passed such laws that are now history. History.
State rights like Jim Crow?
We have Federal rights, not state rights. A state cannot ban guns for instance.
Jim Crow can come back if we allow states to take away rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
Even if all of this is true — and for the most part, it’s just revisionist bunk — the next Civil War WILL be about states’ rights. And if it’s about slavery, it will be about American citizens refusing to become slaves.
Many Americans simply would not exist if the country had not suffered the tragic irreplaceable genetic losses between 1861-1865. Over 600,00 killed outright and probably an equal number so damaged as never to procreate again. Many of the lineal descendants of the original Americans were obliterated. The country was forced to open the immigration gates to Eastern and Southern Europeans to restock and provide the manpower necessary for the industrial revolution. The irony is that today, in the Northeastern states the descendants of those immigrants clearly outnumber and dominate the descendants of those who served in the Civil War and had those passionate arguments. Sic transit omnia.
I've often wonder about that! They come here because they like it better, the people are so nice... then, the first thing they do is they try to tell us how we should do things, how they did it up North. Don't they realize they are trying to turn the South into exactly the same quagmire they are escaping?
In item #1 above, I posted a link to the "Declarations of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify Secession from the Federal Union".
If you will read those, or even do a quick word search, you'll find that neither tariffs nor immigration are even mentioned, much less treated as major items of complaint.
ConradoMontrerrat: "Northern industries found out that immigrants were cheaper than slaves, so they opened up the flood gates and let bunches in."
In fact, seeds for the death of slavery first began when poorer northern & western voters realized that slaves could be trained to do their work and take away their jobs -- jobs which, then as now, were the highest paying in the world.
This is why by 1860, they insisted there must be no further expansion of slavery into states or territories which didn't want it.
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