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The “Buildup” Continues: DHS Purchases 2,700 MRAPs (Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles)
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Posted on 03/04/2013 7:20:52 AM PST by Texas Eagle

The “Buildup” Continues: Dept. of Homeland Security Purchases 2,700 MRAPs (Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles) For Domestic Use… Posted on March 4, 2013 by sundance Some may ignore – But we ask the same questions again, and again. Why do they need these? – This is beyond Creepy – Who is the DHS going to war against?

The Federal Government ordered almost 2 billion rounds of ammunition. They ordered targets looking like average armed citizens. They are conducting military style exercises in urban areas. North Carolina police say they are practicing for martial law.

Now this……

Via Modern Survival Blog - The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.


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1 posted on 03/04/2013 7:21:02 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

— Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


2 posted on 03/04/2013 7:26:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Texas Eagle

I just read this on Drudge a little while ago. I find it highly disturbing even more so than the ammo order. This is the Civilian National Defense Force.

I am going to formally contact my US rep and have a discussion with him or request in writing his detailed view of why this is happening and why the House of Representatives is funding this stuff. I urge everyone else to do the same.


3 posted on 03/04/2013 7:29:52 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Texas Eagle
There is no circumstance where this can be construed as good news.
4 posted on 03/04/2013 7:31:32 AM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: Texas Eagle

Last week a pretty bad guy killed two cops in Santa Cruz, CA. Pictures after the event showed some kind of SWAT tank from nearby Scotts Valley, which has maybe two main streets and a population of less than 12,000 spread over many square miles.

They want every town militarized.


5 posted on 03/04/2013 7:32:50 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Texas Eagle
This is Obumbo's domestic military force, just like he said he wanted.... to carry out his national tyranny! (Oh,I added the last part.)

Say goodbye to ALL guns!

6 posted on 03/04/2013 7:34:14 AM PST by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: Texas Eagle

Who could these bery armed men in camo be going after?
Illegals? HA
Ruskies or NKoreans a la Red Dawn?
Nope

who does that leave?

and they want us to register our weapons in a national database.
Like they said at Gonzales
COME AND TAKE THEM.
I will also be calling my elected Pols


7 posted on 03/04/2013 7:36:51 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


8 posted on 03/04/2013 7:37:03 AM PST by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

This is the “Civilian Resistance Suppression” force.


9 posted on 03/04/2013 7:39:20 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texas Eagle

This sure makes me ready to register all my firearms and turn in my salt rifles and hi cap magazines to the einsatzgruppen ss...oopps I meant the DHS.


10 posted on 03/04/2013 7:40:31 AM PST by Daryl Dixson (7.62 x 51 Diplomacy)
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To: Texas Eagle

If these are going to be used for border patrol, I have no problem with it, but the cynic in me thinks that’s not the case.


11 posted on 03/04/2013 7:41:03 AM PST by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

>I am going to formally contact my US rep and have a discussion with him......and why the House of Representatives is funding this stuff.<

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Before he’ll give you an answer on your question he’ll hand you a survey form with a request for a monatary contribution.


12 posted on 03/04/2013 7:43:26 AM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: jiggyboy
Ah here we go, why wait for DHS to ready yourself for those no-knock raids?

"For $10, the Scotts Valley Peace Officers Association bought the truck from a private security company that offers their retired vehicles to law enforcement agencies for very little money. Then officers drummed up donations from businesses in the area to pay for sprucing up the truck."

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_12196596

13 posted on 03/04/2013 7:44:24 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Texas Eagle
Obama Civilian Security
14 posted on 03/04/2013 7:46:29 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Remember Obama’s promise to create “…a civilian force just as well funded, just as well equipped as the military…”? Well, it looks like he’s done exactly what he said he would.


15 posted on 03/04/2013 7:49:15 AM PST by matchgirl (An Ambassador is dead and Al Qaeda is alive.)
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To: RightResponse

This is a step around for Posse Comitatis. The president is prohibited from using military forces in the US.

This can easily be solved by the states rejecting the use of these arms within their borders.

Americans better reassert state rights RIGHT NOW!!!


16 posted on 03/04/2013 7:53:23 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Well, at least the shirts are the correct color.


17 posted on 03/04/2013 7:55:32 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

Being color blind, I didn’t even notice the color of the shirts. I’m assuming they’re brown?


18 posted on 03/04/2013 7:58:33 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

The gun control laws taking place in blue states is just the beginning. Statists know they can never fully control the American people until we have no means of fighting back. I will fight them every step of the way. It’s better to die on my feet than live as a slave on my knees.

I believe the United States will self-destruct within 8 years. ObamaCare will destroy what’s left of the economy. Unemployment will skyrocket to third world numbers. Can anyone really see anything else happening to keep the USA together? And should a country as stupid and corrupt as the United States continue as a republic?

America has too many moochers to survive. Too many takers and not enough makers. And NO ONE in Washington appears prepared to do what is necessary to preserve the economy, the dollar, or the limited-government principles set forth in the Constitution.


19 posted on 03/04/2013 7:58:56 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: MrB

“This is the “Civilian Resistance Suppression” force”

For once we are in total lockstep agreement.

They either know something is coming or they are planning to do something. Either way CWII is a short distance off. This stuff with DHS has ramped up so fast it makes your head swim.


20 posted on 03/04/2013 7:59:35 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Naturally.


21 posted on 03/04/2013 8:01:27 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

For once? I didn’t realize you and I disagreed so much... :)


22 posted on 03/04/2013 8:02:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texas Eagle
Apparently the Sequestration budget cuts isn't affecting the build-up and arming of "Janetalia's Army".

Anyone who can't see, or won't admit, that Obama is arming DHS and other government agencies in preparation for war against citizens, against people he identifies as "Bitter Clingers", isn't looking or is on Obama's side and against the US Constitution.

This is a violation of the spirit and intent of the Posse Comitatus Act . It is just another sleazy liberal end-run around the law of the land and the rights of US Citizens. Obama and his "Progressive" henchmen wipe their feet on the US Constitution and the sheeple lick their boots.

The purchase of 2,700 MRAP's certainly isn't to aid in apprehending muslim terrorists boarding aircraft. We know they aren't planning a land war with Mexico or Canada. And we know the administration doesn't care who crosses the border illegally. That leaves only one group of people as the potential targets for such a large militia - American citizens.

What is next on their Wish List? M1 Abrams tanks? A fleet of 10,000 armed, Vietnam style river boats? How about an armed DHS "Security Office" in every village, subdivision, train station, marina, factory, farm and on every street corner?

DHS is going to end up with one of the largest and best armed militia forces in the world and their weapons are all trained inward toward law abiding citizens of the USA.

There is a reason Obama is pushing so hard for the right to use drones to kill Americans he declares to be terrorists. It is only one small step for Obama to go from claiming that right on foreign soil to claiming the same authority against "terrorists" within our own borders. And it is only another small step for him to claim the right to kill those same Americans with weapons other than drones. Any republican who buys into giving Obama the authority to kill a person he himself declares to be a terrorist is signing a death warrant for the people he represents.


23 posted on 03/04/2013 8:03:36 AM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: Texas Eagle

That photo isn’t making my homeland feel very secure.

Obama bewails the “Sequester” (reductions in spending increases), but finds plenty of $$$$ to arm the government against the People (obviously these mobile bunkers aren’t intended for immigration enforcement, since Obama just released thousands of illegal aliens).

I suppose DHS needs huge armored vehicles to haul around all that new ammo, given the flood of land mine incidents and attacks on DHS storm troopers... Can you imagine the fuel costs and “carbon footprint” of these behemoths?


24 posted on 03/04/2013 8:05:54 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: Texas Eagle

Also, that is a lot of web gear, velcro and iron in one place. Would be interesting to check out their training drills.


25 posted on 03/04/2013 8:06:09 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Texas Eagle
This is beyond Creepy – Who is the DHS going to war against?

Let's see... Homeland Security (an Orwelllian term if ever there was one) 'practices' in places like Miami - and other AMERICAN cities. They practice in our cities because that's where they plan on fighting. And the 'enemy'? Well, it's the people living in those cities... American citizens.

There - that was easy - and obvious...

There's more Muslims working for Homeland Security than there are Conservative American citizens. That's another hint.

Homeland Security bought: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ... to use on American soil...

26 posted on 03/04/2013 8:07:15 AM PST by GOPJ (Homeland Security bought: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...)
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To: Texas Eagle

When if ever will the feckless Republicans question this build up?


27 posted on 03/04/2013 8:11:36 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; sickoflibs; Liz
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

— Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Might be time for some freepers to write 'fiction'... Books put out by conservatives that double as guide books for when it starts going down.

28 posted on 03/04/2013 8:12:44 AM PST by GOPJ (Homeland Security bought: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...)
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To: Chewbarkah
That photo isn’t making my homeland feel very secure.

Did you watch the video? Perhaps that will quell your insecurity.

Click for video

29 posted on 03/04/2013 8:14:28 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: going hot

30 posted on 03/04/2013 8:17:19 AM PST by sunny48
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To: All
And of course you need a grown man
31 posted on 03/04/2013 8:21:03 AM PST by sunny48
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Well yes you can look at the federal agencies and/or local first responders and/or state guard.

But beneath all that you have the US Northern Command and what they do to support the federal agencies and locals plus what the Northern Command has to ultimately do under such and such a scenario. They have 15 planning scenarios that are publicly known and published. Who knows how many possible scenarios that they have and planned/trained for that are not publicly known?

They have the same defense cycle as any other part of the military: Deterrence, prevention, preemption, crisis management, consequence management, attribution, and retaliation.

Another thing you have to ask yourself is what happens in the 2014 and 2016 elections.

If Hillary is prez, the dems control the House and have a super majority in the Senate, will the right wing start voting from the roof tops?

32 posted on 03/04/2013 8:22:46 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: ClearCase_guy

Oh man, that’s a tough quote. It seems to be happening all over again, only it’s still in the building stages and anyone who sees it and calls it out is labelled “nuts”.


33 posted on 03/04/2013 8:22:55 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir

That’s SOP on the left when you call them out on their totalitarian designs...

And, for the sheeperals, they are totally recoiled by the idea of those they support having nefarious designs on power.

The sheeperals support the elite ruling class because it makes themselves, in their own minds, “good people”.


34 posted on 03/04/2013 8:24:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sunny48

Are they assuming that the guy with the shotgun is just going open the door and stand there? That is suicide by cop.


36 posted on 03/04/2013 8:30:03 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Texas Eagle
Part of what is going on here is the disposal of vehicles, post Iraq draw-down, from US Army stocks. The DRMO yard at my local AFB has about 30 MRAPS sitting there in lines patiently waiting for sale/disposal. Government regs basically allow these to be transferred 'in kind' to other Federal agencies, while otherwise they would have to be sold to a foreign government or cut up and sold to domestic scrapper buyers. So part of this is probably that sort of accounting shell-game shennanigans.

Now, that being said, does DHS really NEED those MRAPS? I suppose the Border Patrol might have some needs if the Druggies decide to go ballistic but for the most part, DHS is about the LAST group I would like to see getting these sorts of vehicles. Frankly, I would be fine with giving 100 to Border Patrol, maybe some to DOE, sell about 100 to some Hollywood prop house, and scrap the rest if the military really does not need or want them anymore.

37 posted on 03/04/2013 8:32:55 AM PST by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: BillM

“This is a step around for Posse Comitatis. The president is prohibited from using military forces in the US.

This can easily be solved by the states rejecting the use of these arms within their borders.

Americans better reassert state rights RIGHT NOW!!!”

Hell, they’ll just give’em to local, county or state cops. And if anyone objects they’ll just say it’s for your security. Cops have wet dreams thinking about having these at their disposal


38 posted on 03/04/2013 8:33:34 AM PST by saleman
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To: saleman; going hot

A company which received $2 million dollars from the DHS has apologized and TAKEN OFFLINE “no more hesitation” shooting targets which depicted pregnant women, children, and elderly gun owners in residential settings as “non-traditional threats,” following an online uproar.
As one respondent to the company explained, “Look, each of the supposed “threats” appeared to be in their own home settings. They were also all holding a weapon….it is obvious these paper targets were never intended to be decoy (don’t shoot targets). It is apparent this was designed to assist in desensitizing the trainee.”

You can read more here; http://www.infowars.com/dhs-contractor-apologizes-for-selling-shooting-targets-of-children


39 posted on 03/04/2013 8:42:06 AM PST by sunny48
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To: going hot

That man isn’t standing in his front door.
He’s retreated to his office/library and has raised his gun as a last ditch effort to save his life from a home invasion.


40 posted on 03/04/2013 8:45:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GOPJ

Have you read “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross? It’s an interesting piece of fiction.


41 posted on 03/04/2013 8:47:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: sunny48

I get pretty frustrated with my libinlaws who, when you point out these things that their precious government does or tries to do, fall back on “they didn’t get it passed/done/enforced/etc”.

They don’t seem to understand that the mentality that would even think of doing these things should be no where near the levers of power.


42 posted on 03/04/2013 8:48:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sunny48
Well, how convenient. Took ‘em offline, but doesn't say one damn thing about not selling them.

I just sent a link, along with some scathing comments, to my rep in Congress.

43 posted on 03/04/2013 8:52:44 AM PST by saleman
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To: Texas Eagle

When Obama said he wasnted a civilian military force as well equipped as our military did ANYONE in the meadia think to ask him “What for?”

Or are the “progressives” so firmly entrenched in the media that they rubbed their hands and said “Yesssssss~!!!”


44 posted on 03/04/2013 8:53:48 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Texas Eagle

What this means is that when you are prepping, don’t forget to include a large stash of gasoline, a funnel, glass bottles, cotton rags, and cigarette lighters.


45 posted on 03/04/2013 8:53:54 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Texas Eagle
When Obama said he wanted a civilian military force as well equipped as our military did ANYONE in the Media think to ask him “What for?”

Or are the “progressives” so firmly entrenched in the media that they rubbed their hands and said “Yesssssss~!!!”

46 posted on 03/04/2013 8:54:22 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: saleman
Why in the world would you need to be confronting pregnant women, old men, grannies in their bathrobe, etc. in their home?

Because you're there to confiscate their guns.

47 posted on 03/04/2013 8:56:52 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: going hot
Are they assuming that the guy with the shotgun is just going open the door and stand there?

That's for getting an idea what you'll see in back of the front door you've just kicked in in your no-knock raid.

I suppose a couple of these targets showing a guy sitting on his couch with a gun he just pulled from between the seat cushions would give the game away.

48 posted on 03/04/2013 9:01:00 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Mr. K

It’s the “liberal” who has the deep, dark desire that the power of the State will be used to “punish” those that dare disagree with them.


49 posted on 03/04/2013 9:02:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texas Eagle

I know God is at work here, just as He was while allowing past tyrannies. What I don’t know is our role before Him in all this. As Americans we’ve been taught to resist tyranny, even been charged with the RESPONSIBILITY to do so by our Founders. Is it wrong before God to fight to the death against oppression, even in the twilight stages as Solzhenitsyn suggested above? Hesitation could leave you in a death camp, “burning” against what might have been.

I struggle with this, since it is also clear from the Bible that surrender is sometimes the “right thing to do” before God. Hebrews speaks of a time when persecuted Christians “joyfully accepted the confiscation of [their] property” and makes an appeal to them to remember that during their present persecution. Now THAT’S a tough sell to an American!

Faith is needed, I suppose. Ultimately I disagree with Solzhenitsyn’s charge of blame. Sometimes a people are overrun simply because God has allowed it for His purposes (this would include their inability to “see” what was happening). “Blame” originates from the Fall, and from that point to now we have deserved every tyrant and yet have not been “treated as our sins deserve”. We demand there be NO tyrants. Barring this fantasy, notice that God DOES cut the tyrant’s reign short. They don’t end well: Suicide, Syphilis, Hanged upside down with their mistress in the public square, Exiled, etc.

And after death? The Judgment!


50 posted on 03/04/2013 9:04:35 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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