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To: tobyhill; All

And yet Obama and the Dems don't think the "rich" are taxed enough. This is going to hurt the job situation -- as someone said, nobody got a job from a poor person...

3 posted on 03/04/2013 11:05:46 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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From a more complete source Tax Bills for Rich Families Approach 30-Year High | Federal tax bills for rich near 30-year high while everyone else pays historically low rates - AP, by Stephen Ohlemacher, 2013 March 03:

On average, the families in the bottom 20 percent of households don't pay any federal taxes. Instead, many will actually get tax credits payments from the federal government, which will result in a >negative tax rate. Because usually "the rich get richer" their total income is taxed at much higher "progressive" rate. How is that "fair"?

Since there has never been a "fair tax" and there can never be defined goal posts or a practical consensus definition of "fair share" of taxes, it's easy to keep demagoguing the term to those who think they will not be negatively affected by the taxes on or redistribution of "Other People's Money". So the "progressives" describe it in terms of income "inequity" or "inequality" - which is simply a play on some people's base envy and resentment - straight out of Marxist playbook.

This (hopefully temporary) mental confusion afflicts people not only in the U.S., but in other places where people should know better - like the U.K., Spain, France, Italy and now otherwise more sane Switzerland where people have just voted to limit executive pay by more than 2 to 1 Swiss Pay Curbs Leave Government to Struggle With Details - because it seems like a chance to "get even" without understanding the consequences or stopping for a moment to think why "poor are getting poorer" and life for "middle class" is getting harder despite all the "fair share" taxes and other measures that were instituted by government / liberal do-gooders before the latest rounds of "fair share" taxes/fines/fees/mandates or increases in minimum wages or tax credits are demanded...

But here what the eventual consequences will be for the middle class and the poor down the road - they're the ones who will be "Greece'd"!

From Next Stop, Greece - B, by Gene Epstein, 2013 February 18

** A link to the chart of national debt-to-GDP ratio projections including hypothetical adjustments, such as new Obama taxes "on the rich" and the rollback to pre-Bush tax rates: When Will the Fiscal Crisis Strike?

And in the follow-up article, things are called what they really are - a Ponzi scheme.

From One of the Costliest Ponzi Schemes Ever - B, by Gene Epstein, 2013 February 23

The author, Gene Epstein, nails Krugman on yet another hypocrisy: in NYT article in February 2005 Krugman chastised President Bush for deficit of 2.6% of GDP as being "indeed a major problem"; in February of 2013 with the deficit optimistically projected to run at 5.3% of GDP "the deficit problem was mostly solved" by Obama.

5 posted on 03/05/2013 12:26:10 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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